A good front pipe for this guys .... - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

reynierpm · 08-25-2017, 08:23 AM

Hi there,

I am about to get a used TOMEI EXPREME UNEQUAL LENGTH HEADER - 2013+ FR-S / BRZ / 86 and I would like to know what front pipe goes well with those. I am trying to be louder but not so louder (I mean I don't want to be the center over the world if you understand me I am just trying to get a great sound coming out from my car). I have already installed a Perrin 3.0 catback, other than that no more changes.

Advice? Ideas?

Jakinit · 08-25-2017, 08:53 AM

With a catback and the header you should be pretty loud. That's the header I just installed and it is noticeable without a catback.

reynierpm · 08-25-2017, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakinit

With a catback and the header you should be pretty loud. That's the header I just installed and it is noticeable without a catback.

Good I will give a try without change the front pipe and see how it sounds. Now, what about tuning? What do I get for this? I want to avoid the light on the dash saying something is wrong, is not harmful but maybe will stop others light or sensors to work properly.

Vital · 08-25-2017, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by reynierpm

Good I will give a try without change the front pipe and see how it sounds. Now, what about tuning? What do I get for this? I want to avoid the light on the dash saying something is wrong, is not harmful but maybe will stop others light or sensors to work properly.

Yes your header will throw a CEL code which will disable your cruise control. You will need a tune you can either get an ECUTek Tune or you can buy an OpenFlash Tablet and tune it yourself

Jakinit · 08-25-2017, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by reynierpm

Good I will give a try without change the front pipe and see how it sounds. Now, what about tuning? What do I get for this? I want to avoid the light on the dash saying something is wrong, is not harmful but maybe will stop others light or sensors to work properly.

I went to a trusted shop nearby and got a canned ECUtek tune. You will need to if you don't want the CEL, before the tune mine came on after a couple days. After the tune, you won't have the torque dip anymore and if you so choose you might have launch control and some other perks as well.

Submarinesonce · 08-25-2017, 11:29 AM

the header will make very little power gain without a tune.

reynierpm · 08-25-2017, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Submarinesonce

the header will make very little power gain without a tune.

I'll do the tune for sure however I'll have to wait a little bit til then since the whole bundle is about $750

one step at the time

JazzleSAURUS · 08-25-2017, 11:47 AM

Please try and prioritize a tune. Your car is currently running poorly, CEL or not.

A lot of locals all over have tactrix cables and can flash on an OFT Stage 2 UEL tune for you for a 6 pack, maybe a pizza and a hand mowing their lawn or something.

You definitely don't need the front pipe. The Perrin 3" is optimized for FI, and is definitely a bit louder and more raspy than 2.5" systems, so keep that in mind. A stock front pipe won't free up much for power. If you want to keep it quiet, I'd suggest the JDL Ultra quiet front pipe.

There are a few other options too. There's a Fujitsubo dual resonated, an HKS dual resonated, a Nameless one with a high flow cat and resonator that also replaces your overpipe, etc.

lantsalot · 08-25-2017, 12:58 PM

I have seen a lot of posts about people doing the stock FP or a silenced one (JDL i think?) with the Tomei headers because otherwise it's just obnoxiously loud.

JazzleSAURUS · 08-25-2017, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lantsalot

I have seen a lot of posts about people doing the stock FP or a silenced one (JDL i think?) with the Tomei headers because otherwise it's just obnoxiously loud.

Yep, I've seen a lot of people with the stock FP and have an exhaust shop weld in a high flow cat and/or a more open style resonator.

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JazzleSAURUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 15 BRZ LTD, 05 FXT Location: Western MA Posts: 1,032 Thanks: 561 Thanked 558 Times in 351 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Please try and prioritize a tune. Your car is currently running poorly, CEL or not. A lot of locals all over have tactrix cables and can flash on an OFT Stage 2 UEL tune for you for a 6 pack, maybe a pizza and a hand mowing their lawn or something. You definitely don't need the front pipe. The Perrin 3" is optimized for FI, and is definitely a bit louder and more raspy than 2.5" systems, so keep that in mind. A stock front pipe won't free up much for power. If you want to keep it quiet, I'd suggest the JDL Ultra quiet front pipe. There are a few other options too. There's a Fujitsubo dual resonated, an HKS dual resonated, a Nameless one with a high flow cat and resonator that also replaces your overpipe, etc. __________________ SOLD: 2015 WRB BRZ Limited ('02 WRX BBS, S-04's, Stoptech Sport pads, MXP SP, AVO drop in filter, Mishimoto Intake tube, decatted header, OFT 93 Stage 2 EL Tune, Kartboy rear shifter bushing, Whiteline transmission and subframe lockout bushings, ST Coilovers, SPC Camber bolts w/smaller crash bolt, SPC LCA's & SPC Toe Arm bushings, Red TOMs, TRD Wing.)

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