New Spec - WORK Emotion Kiwami 18x8.5 +38 / 18x9.5 +38

[Mild2Wild]

While we're on a tangent to bottom lips: Does anyone know of similar products available or in development for the FRS?

[rcm47]

Originally Posted by Mild2Wild

While we're on a tangent to bottom lips: Does anyone know of similar products available or in development for the FRS?

This is also what im waiting for.

[RYU]

loving this except for the vortex generators. i'd rather do w/o the wing too but it's not as offensive as the VGs.

[Nardi330]

Originally Posted by Mild2Wild

While we're on a tangent to bottom lips: Does anyone know of similar products available or in development for the FRS?

Check the FB link I posted above. They have a prototype for FRS but its a bit bigger.

[Metabrz]

So, there is a lot of talk about staggered set ups creating understeer.

There are a lot of cars that are sold new with a staggered set up so surely this can tuned out with appropriate suspension work?

I really like the staggered look but my brz will be used on track quite a lot so its definititely function > form for me.

Any peeps got some guidance in this area? Thanks

[Mild2Wild]

Originally Posted by Nardi330

Check the FB link I posted above. They have a prototype for FRS but its a bit bigger.

Thanks for the heads up. I think it'll look better if black and not color matched like in the white prototype photo.

[RRnold]

That looks hella good!

[spiller]

Originally Posted by Metabrz

So, there is a lot of talk about staggered set ups creating understeer.

There are a lot of cars that are sold new with a staggered set up so surely this can tuned out with appropriate suspension work?

I really like the staggered look but my brz will be used on track quite a lot so its definititely function > form for me.

Any peeps got some guidance in this area? Thanks

Whether the car understeers or not depends on what sort of tires you go for. If you over tire the rear of the car too much it will not only make you slower in a straight line but the extra grip at the rear will tend to cause the car to understeer if the front is not balanced out with equal amounts of grip. The best way to do this is with your wheel alingment - more negative camber at the front basically. Some people like to run toe out on the front to induce turn in but ive never been a fan of that. It messes with the feel of the steering.

[Starscream15]

I just peed a little....again.

Could someone chop these pics to DGM?

[Mr 286]

So from the looks of the sizing chart, I'm guessing a custom order PCD was required for the rear wheels to come in that width/offset.

[ultra]

Originally Posted by spiller

Whether the car understeers or not depends on what sort of tires you go for. If you over tire the rear of the car too much it will not only make you slower in a straight line but the extra grip at the rear will tend to cause the car to understeer if the front is not balanced out with equal amounts of grip. The best way to do this is with your wheel alingment - more negative camber at the front basically. Some people like to run toe out on the front to induce turn in but ive never been a fan of that. It messes with the feel of the steering.

Bit of an oversimplification there. The OP's question was whether a staggered setup would induce additional understeer. The clear answer would be yes, due to the higher amount of grip at the rear of the car.

Could you tune the chassis to re-balance the car after adding wider rear tires? Using a combination of springs/dampers, sway bars and aggressive alignment settings you probably could, but that would involve a whole lot of work just to fix something that was intentionally 'broken' in the name of aesthetics.

If you have an abundance of power to break the rears loose and need wide rubber to contain them that's one thing but there's a reason that the hardcore track S2K and Miata guys tend to favour square setups.

Having said that, nobody's proven things one way or another through actual testing on these cars yet.


Just my 2c.

[spiller]

Originally Posted by ultra

Bit of an oversimplification there. The OP's question was whether a staggered setup would induce additional understeer. The clear answer would be yes, due to the higher amount of grip at the rear of the car.

Could you tune the chassis to re-balance the car after adding wider rear tires? Using a combination of springs/dampers, sway bars and aggressive alignment settings you probably could, but that would involve a whole lot of work just to fix something that was intentionally 'broken' in the name of aesthetics.

If you have an abundance of power to break the rears loose and need wide rubber to contain them that's one thing but there's a reason that the hardcore track S2K and Miata guys tend to favour square setups.

Having said that, nobody's proven things one way or another through actual testing on these cars yet.


Just my 2c.

Thanks for posting pretty much the same thing but in different words. i'm sure the OP gets it now.

[Coastermikey]

It doesn't look like +38 all around, the rears look to be less with its concavity

[ultra]

Originally Posted by spiller

Thanks for posting pretty much the same thing but in different words. i'm sure the OP gets it now.

Same team. :happy0180:

The staggered setup looks undoubtedly hot.