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Old 06-26-2021, 11:29 AM   #2885
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Sensitive much ? I would be to if I had taken a unproven new non FDA approved chemical.
What about people dying from smoking ? texting and driving ? Nightly shootings in almost all big cities. Why not some focus on saving those lives ? While I believe the vaccines are probably safe and and good choice for the correct demographic ( elderly, obese, pre existing conditions ) I see no reason to gamble on they got it 100% right when I have a 99%+ chance of survival but again to each his own. take it twice if you like.

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Sensitive much ? I would be to if I had taken a unproven new non FDA approved chemical.
What about people dying from smoking ? texting and driving ? Nightly shootings in almost all big cities. Why not some focus on saving those lives ? While I believe the vaccines are probably safe and and good choice for the correct demographic ( elderly, obese, pre existing conditions ) I see no reason to gamble on they got it 100% right when I have a 99%+ chance of survival but again to each his own. take it twice if you like.

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That's unfortunate. Some people never come to grips with the idea of a community. They are an "individual" and all that matters is them. Some refuse (and refuse is absolutely the correct term) to acknowledge that "they are [indeed] their brother's keeper" (and vice versa). There are NO self made men/women.

Sadly, ideological individualists make for a world with a lot more suckage than necessary. You appear to be one of them.
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That's unfortunate. Some people never come to grips with the idea of a community. They are an "individual" and all that matters is them. Some refuse (and refuse is absolutely the correct term) to acknowledge that "they are [indeed] their brother's keeper" (and vice versa). There are NO self made men/women.

Sadly, ideological individualists make for a world with a lot more suckage than necessary. You appear to be one of them.
Someone posted a data sheet of locations least likely to get the vaccine and or ignorant. Coupled with the level of education of the corresponding state. Look where they are located and it adds up.
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Someone posted a data sheet of locations least likely to get the vaccine and or ignorant. Coupled with the level of education of the corresponding state. Look where they are located and it adds up.
I bet that lines up pretty well with per capita covid cases and deaths in the last month or so.
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College educated and make 6 figures. People can and should learn to think for themselves and today a college degree means less and less. I truly hope there are few side effects in the future tied to the shots. The shot did exactly what it was intended to do. Calm people down so the economy could recover from the man made china virus.
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Notice I am not atracking anyone for my beliefs but can’t say the same for some replies.
Again If you want it go for it if only the people who don’t take the risk of the shot can get it ( cause it is effective ) why talk of selfishness ?
My body my choice right ? Right ?

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College educated and make 6 figures. People can and should learn to think for themselves and today a college degree means less and less. I truly hope there are few side effects in the future tied to the shots. The shot did exactly what it was intended to do. Calm people down so the economy could recover from the man made china virus.
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Notice I am not atracking anyone for my beliefs but can’t say the same for some replies.
Again If you want it go for it if only the people who don’t take the risk of the shot can get it ( cause it is effective ) why talk of selfishness ?
My body my choice right ? Right ?
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See bolded below and admonishing everyone who doesn't draw your conclusion for not "think[ing] for themselves". Sounds like you are saying they are all stupid to me.

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Why would a healthy person or a young healthy person take a experimental shot when you have a better than 99% survival rate against the Covid Flu ? The shot is not FDA approved and the manufacturer's are not liable if adverse effects happen down the road as a result. If the vaccine is to protect the person taking it why so much concern for all the people who do not want to take it ? Read slowly the part about no liability.

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Simple question then. If vaccine is so safe and effective why the no liability clause for the drug makers ? Think now

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And I have admonished no one I even said take as much as you like and I mean it.
I hear hardly anyone fussing that people are getting vaccinated it is quite the opposite.

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And I have admonished no one I even said take as much as you like and I mean it.
I hear hardly anyone fussing that people are getting vaccinated it is quite the opposite.

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Nah dude, you're being an ass. If you read the thread you would find the answers to your questions, I don't really have the time to go back through it all for you.
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Nah dude, you're being an ass. If you read the thread you would find the answers to your questions, I don't really have the time to go back through it all for you.
Your argument has not swayed me but I do appreciate your response Sir and further proof of my points.

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Your argument has not swayed me but I do appreciate your response Sir and further proof of my points.

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We get it. You're a critical thinker like TommyW. What's your point? That the people considered their options and decided on the vaccine because they deem it safe are the stupid ones?

Making 6 figures and a college degree doesn't make you smarter let alone a more free thinking individual. For all we know you're a graphic design major who passed only because 'the system' forced you to. And you just so happened to get a job on an oil rig and have great hazard pay.
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lol, if that 'argument' was dinner, it wouldn't even serve as a morsel!

i think what you're trying to say is that you really don't care what anyone else has to say on the matter, you've already made up your mind, and any information anyone else can provide is irrelevant unless it supports your pre-existing stance on the issue.

which means that you really didn't come to this thread to discuss any of this, but just rub your own 'facts' in others faces. which perfectly lines up with how i expect entitled self-absorbed '6-figure college degree' holders to act.
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lol, if that 'argument' was dinner, it wouldn't even serve as a morsel!

i think what you're trying to say is that you really don't care what anyone else has to say on the matter, you've already made up your mind, and any information anyone else can provide is irrelevant unless it supports your pre-existing stance on the issue.

which means that you really didn't come to this thread to discuss any of this, but just rub your own 'facts' in others faces. which perfectly lines up with how i expect entitled self-absorbed '6-figure college degree' holders to act.
Wait wait wait. I only stated facts. 99% plus survival rate. Experimental drug and no liability clause. I asked why would anyone considering the odds think it is worth it if young or otherwise healthy but I also agreed that if anyone wants it take as many as you like. I have been attacked about my state, education and job while not showing any disrespect to you guys of the opposite view.
I hear alot of what you guys think I am thinking or what you think I may have used without FDA approval but again this just shows you have no real rebuttal just insults. I think not all but some who have taken this is starting to see some of its rare side effects and are wondering if it is just the tip of the iceberg. I hope it is not but I have decided it is not worth the risk for me right now. Hard to understand why guys who are some much smarter than me and from better areas of the country who value community cannot respect that ??

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