Full-Race Motorsports

[cdrazic93]

updates?!?! and pricing...been waiting a very long time for this....

happy early anniversary, coming up to 11 months of R&D.

[s2d4]

I can't get over that hump...

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff

Pricing and full kit details will be online friday Oct 10.

Quoted for clarity for other members.

[Eightysexy]

Looks awsome but dang, do we have to cut the crash beam for this turbo kit install as well?

[Dustin]

Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff

Pricing and full kit details will be online friday Oct 10.

Today is the 11th.

[cdrazic93]

Guessing between $4900 and $6300 for single scroll and twin scroll kits (based on the s2000 Borg Warner kits and scroll options)

[diodelphi]

Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff

Our internal deadline is SEMA, 4 weeks away. Everyone here at FR is excited to release this kit, and the anticipation is killing us just the same. Pricing and full kit details will be online friday Oct 10. We can start accepting orders the following monday (oct 13th). All EFR turbos are in stock, no wait. Kits have a 4-6 week leadtime (id say 5-6 weeks initially) and our catback exhausts will start shipping the first week in November, at the beginning of SEMA.

To everyone waiting - thank you, we think this was worth the wait and hope you'll agree

Really waiting for Dyno Result.

do you prefer Single scroll T2 7163 over Twin scroll T4 7163 for 330whp on E85?

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by diodelphi

Really waiting for Dyno Result.

do you prefer Single scroll T2 7163 over Twin scroll T4 7163 for 330whp on E85?

The 6758 will hit that on pump gas no need for the 7163 and E85. Twin scroll for response, but no need for a turbo that big, the 6758 is more than enough for that. E85 would put you well over 370 whp on a 6758.

[KAR]

K now im done with Formula D, got that out of the way.. now its time for some undivided attention.

[diodelphi]

Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff

That is a loaded question - the answer will depend on what powerband and application is the car built for?

-For an autocross or HPDE road racing powerband, on stock engine internals - i suggest twinscroll 6258 or 6758. For competitive road racing/time attack on E85 and/or built motor, twinscroll 7163 is the call and for very high output the 7670 or 8374 make sense. As a rule of thumb - twinscroll spools faster and makes more midrange torque, but slightly less top end than singlescroll

-For a street/strip/highway build, singlescroll 6758 and 7163 are the call. Singlescroll spools little later (less torque) but makes more top end HP. As a result of the softer torque curve, singlescroll is usually more foregiving on the drivetrain. If you build your motor in the future it will allow for the optional 0.85 a/r with a built motor (whereas twinscroll is 0.80 a/r)

Thanks
I think to me single scroll be better.
do 7163 keep power over 7400rpm?


I really happy to see Full-race brz kit and i hope you tune it on dyno with record setting result .
I like your first ecu tune be on 9psi. I like 9psi because it is exactly double power (250-260TQ) and 9psi is safe for stock engine.
Do you tune with ecutek or you plan to tune with other ecu tuning like motec M1 or Haltech?
it seems ecutek has less than full control over DI.

In my idea all thing in this kit (between all other turbo kits) seems to be perfect to me but the only thing i like to be better is FMIC look.
Crawford FMIC is alittle more beautiful.

Do you give customer option for crawford FMIC?

[cdrazic93]

Everytime i theoretically price this out (including labor) it keeps lookong better and better

[diodelphi]

Dear Sir
Thanks for care

my idea about record setting was not high power , it means maximum power at all boost levels like 9psi.
I think at 9psi getting 260TQ with boost control will be record setting between all other cars tuned at 9psi.

excuse me if i recommend any thing to you , i know you do the best but i just like to share for help.
for tuning I think Delicious Tuning could help , they make good tune with ecutek.
for FMIC i really think you do best but i just refer to beautifulness of crawford FMIC. i never compared their quality.

[BRZGM3]

[quote=Full-Race Geoff;1982765]

twinscroll 6258: most torque ever
twinscroll 7163: broadest 500hp powerband
twinscroll 8374: broadest 700hp powerband






So is there a turbo that falls between the 7163 - 8374.
Ive got forged rods, 10:1 je pistons, and the big valve head package from element tuning. My goals are right around 600whp on e85.

[BRZGM3]

Thank you very much, id rather the better response. So what would be a comparable turbo to the 7670, from Precision? And Garrett.