cheapest sub 2.00 BW CW13 car out

[jflogerzi]

I am going to move on from the twins platform. I want to try something different. Looking for the cheapest sub 2 min RWD platform car at buttonwillow CW13 layout that can be still street legal and minimal mods required. I am guessing the C5 might be but I am open to ideas. Different flavors is the spice of life

[CSG Mike]

Stock or with tires?

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Stock or with tires?

basic mods. 200tw tires, brake pads, and fluid only.

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[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

basic mods. 200tw tires, brake pads, and fluid only.

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Assuming no salvage title type stuff...

An old Camaro or Mustang. Or even a vette.

It's not cheaply sustainable, but it's the cheapest one lap wonder.

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Assuming no salvage title type stuff...

An old Camaro or Mustang. Or even a vette.

It's not cheaply sustainable, but it's the cheapest one lap wonder.

not looking for something to do constant tracking. something to go 4-5 track days per year. have some fun and head home. Definitely no salvage title. needs to be insurable.

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[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

not looking for something to do constant tracking. something to go 4-5 track days per year. have some fun and head home. Definitely no salvage title. needs to be insurable.

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any of those cars, stuff on some fat RE71RS or similar, and you have a sub2 machine.

American muscle is underrated.

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

any of those cars, stuff on some fat RE71RS or similar, and you have a sub2 machine.



American muscle is underrated.

would love to own a sv197 mustang. I know they are boats but V8s are just so fun. C5 z06 would be my pick but will need to save my pennies for a while

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[Autoxer62]

A C6 might be worth looking at. While a C5 Z06 is really cool, the standard C6 makes nearly the power and has a better cooling system, I'd care to bet a Z51 package car would be very nearly as fast on the track.

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by Autoxer62

A C6 might be worth looking at. While a C5 Z06 is really cool, the standard C6 makes nearly the power and has a better cooling system, I'd care to bet a Z51 package car would be very nearly as fast on the track.

I will keep this in mind. It comes down to money. Kids are now at that age I don't have much disposable income. Thus when the time comes I will be ready...

[GrandSport]

C5 electronics are old and really becoming a problem. You almost need to go standalone with them. Plus there is something about them where you lose ABS if you want to get ride of SC 100% (and 1997 SC sucked).

It's not the "cheapest" but the C6 is the way to go, imo. Costs a bit more but upgrades are totally worth it. The widebodies came with big brakes. They have padlets which is kind of annoying, but for only 4 or 5 hpde a year, meh. All they need is fluids and depending on your location, track and skill level, a little more cooling.

You can probably find a bunch of turn key "HPDE Ready" C5 and C6s for a great price.

[Shark_Bait88]

A buddy of mine swapped out his FR-S track/autox car for a C6 GS and couldn't be happier. I've talked with him about his reasons and why the C6 GS over other Corvette's, and from what he's said the C6 GS sounds like it might be the best fit for your situation.

Here's the long term review he did on the vette: https://www.everydaydriver.com/singl...ng-term-review

[showrun]

I come from a C6 w/ Z51 daily driver that did track days - and now have a dedicated FR-S track car.

The first big problem for me was the seat. Stock Corvette seat don't hold you at all. They're really really bad track seats. So I got a harness bar, 6pt, Kirkey. It was fantastic. Overnight I went from beginner to intermediate.

The other big problem was brakes. Hybrid duty pads suck. So I got track pads. That was great on the track and not on the road.

Then I ended up with an awesome track day Corvette that sucked 360 days a year. So I sold it and replaced it with a better daily and a dedicated track day car: the FR-S.

[GrandSport]

Originally Posted by showrun

I come from a C6 w/ Z51 daily driver that did track days - and now have a dedicated FR-S track car.

The first big problem for me was the seat. Stock Corvette seat don't hold you at all. They're really really bad track seats. So I got a harness bar, 6pt, Kirkey. It was fantastic. Overnight I went from beginner to intermediate.

The other big problem was brakes. Hybrid duty pads suck. So I got track pads. That was great on the track and not on the road.

Then I ended up with an awesome track day Corvette that sucked 360 days a year. So I sold it and replaced it with a better daily and a dedicated track day car: the FR-S.

Agreed on the seat. TBH, there aren't many cars that have decent seats for tracking. Even the track seats generally suck when you start pulling sustained +1g.

You should never run "hybrid" pads. They are noisier and have more dust than needed on the street but definitely don't have enough on the track once you get even halfway competent. The only "dual duty" brakes I know of are carbon ceramic.

It's even worse for beginners because street pads (and hybrid pads are street pads) go from about 90% to 10% in one stop. Race pads fade far more progressively.

I wont get in a car unless it has race fluid and race pads. Been there, done that, no thank you.

[showrun]

Originally Posted by GrandSport

Agreed on the seat. TBH, there aren't many cars that have decent seats for tracking. Even the track seats generally suck when you start pulling sustained +1g.

You should never run "hybrid" pads. They are noisier and have more dust than needed on the street but definitely don't have enough on the track once you get even halfway competent. The only "dual duty" brakes I know of are carbon ceramic.

haha, I remember you! Your thread about considering an 86 track car because of the $400/hr running cost of your Corvette was one of the major reasons why I came to this platform - vs going back to Corvette with a C5Z06.

On the C6, I used OEM C5Z06 front pads for several years. With ATE Super Blue. That's what I mean by hybrid pad. They're not a terrible pad, but not a pure race pad like the PFC I got in the end.