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FT_86_SM_GP · 07-18-2016, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mandarb

Than you for your input guys. Fish Eagle gave me lots of advice, took me around the track at the Michelin Cup yesterday.
I'm going to go to some track days at RSR as soon as I can get some days off work, but will do skidpans first.

Can you guys tell me what you do with insurance? My 86 is my only car, and would rather not do anything without that.

Awesome meeting you @Mandarb ! Thanks for the high quality pictures (DAMN YOU HAVE A SERIOUS CAMERA! lol), and your help in the pits!

Hope to see you again at the next events!

LostSalad · 07-18-2016, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FT_86_SM_GP

I chatted to some guys yesterday, Alexander Forbes does offer this insurance for 'Time trail' purposes only, which fits perfect in the 86 motorsport lifestyle.

I am going to give them a call and find out more, apparently its a few 100 rand more a month

Dude if you get a quote out of them can you please either post here or by PM. I've turned 25 recently so I'm going to be looking around for new quotes sometime soon.

sav · 07-27-2016, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mandarb

Hi everyone

New here, got my 86 in March after lusting after it since day one.
I've never driven on a track in a car, had a BMW F650GS that I went around Zwartkops on training, but that is as close as I've got.
My question then is, what would be the best way to get into it? Do an advanced driving course first? How do you handle insurance?

Thank you?

Welcome

Pic of the F650GS?

Mandarb · 07-28-2016, 07:32 AM

It's been written off since, but this was in 2013 in the Cape. The one on the left.

sav · 07-28-2016, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mandarb

It's been written off since, but this was in 2013 in the Cape. The one on the left.

Dakar - very nice.

Mandarb · 08-02-2016, 09:38 AM

Ok, Red Star is open tomorrow, so that's where I'll be going after I vote.
Just wish they had a bit more info on how it works on the day on their site.
Also long sleeves, helmet and gloves?

Fish Eagle · 08-02-2016, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mandarb

Also long sleeves, helmet and gloves?

Yep, also long trousers and closed shoes, takkies OK, just not slops.
Ideally your clothing should be cotton or mostly cotton. Try to avoid nylon stuff.

Enjoy!!

FT_86_SM_GP · 08-03-2016, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandarb

Ok, Red Star is open tomorrow, so that's where I'll be going after I vote.
Just wish they had a bit more info on how it works on the day on their site.
Also long sleeves, helmet and gloves?

How did it go?

Mandarb · 08-04-2016, 01:43 AM

Didn't crash...

Ha, only got one session in, misunderstanding with the marshals on when I could go out.
My friend rode with, and timed me. Fastest of the 4 laps was 2:47.1. I have a lot to do to keep my head and think about hitting apexes.
Couple of moments. Of course I was the slowest, only road car in a field of race cars, including what looked like Super V8s, a Mustang and Corvette. Mustang gave me a fright, coming through the last hairpin suddenly in my mirrors, and trying to give way correctly.
Last lap something started vibrating, slowed down and went off. Turned out it was just the marbles. By that time we had to go, my friend had something else to do.

Gave me enough to wet the appetite, but need to do research and maybe some car sims to get some theory down.
Will upload some videos later, just need to get it off my dash cam.

Fish Eagle · 08-04-2016, 02:50 AM

Wonderful. You put your toe in the water, and survived

Next time will be easier, and as you get faster less cars will pass you, and they'll catch you up slower.

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Mustang gave me a fright, coming through the last hairpin suddenly in my mirrors, and trying to give way correctly.

Just one comment - don't give way to faster cars.
It's their responsibility to find a safe way around you, not your responsibility to get out of their way.

You just need to be predictable - which means stay on the racing line and make him go around you.
Giving way can actually be dangerous because you're likely to be moving into the space he's planning to occupy to pass you.

Also remember that you have a very obstructed and distracting view of him in your mirrors.
He has a panoramic and uninterrupted view of you through his windscreen, and probably a lot more experience.
Just be predictable and you'll be OK.

86 South Africa · 08-04-2016, 04:47 AM

^ That's good advice ^

Mandarb · 08-04-2016, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish Eagle

Just one comment - don't give way to faster cars.
It's their responsibility to find a safe way around you, not your responsibility to get out of their way.

You just need to be predictable - which means stay on the racing line and make him go around you.
Giving way can actually be dangerous because you're likely to be moving into the space he's planning to occupy to pass you.

Also remember that you have a very obstructed and distracting view of him in your mirrors.
He has a panoramic and uninterrupted view of you through his windscreen, and probably a lot more experience.
Just be predictable and you'll be OK.

Yes, as I read your post I remembered what you told me. I just didn't remember it at the time.

Here's the laps:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5omP6TOjXU"]Toyota 86 on Red Star Raceway, Opening and first hot lap - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7uhHS6a8W0"]Toyota 86 on Red Star Raceway, Lap 2 - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mpfcog3uAc"]Toyota 86 on Red Star Raceway Lap 3 - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glGstV-Scb0"]Toyota 86 on Red Star Race Raceway Lap 4 - YouTube[/ame]

Watching them now, obvious thing I did wrong from looking at the other cars, I was turning in way too early. Was also in the wrong gear on the slow corners, third instead of second.

Fish Eagle · 08-04-2016, 12:07 PM

You did great!!

Everyone's first outing on track entails too few hands, too few feet, and brain in neutral - that's normal.

Next time will be much easier, then you can focus more on your lines, etc.

Fish Eagle · 08-05-2016, 02:36 AM

Nice videos - I enjoyed them.

OK, now here's something you probably don't know.
With your very first outing on track you did something unusual, and I think I'm the only other person on this forum who's done it.
That's mix on a racetrack with a WORLD CHAMPION!!

The corvette that passed you at 2m15 in your Lap 3 video was none other than Devin Robertson, 2014 INEX Legend World Champion - how's that.

Here's a pic of that vette which he's racing this season in Super Saloons, and here's his in-car video of the final race of the INEX Legends World Championship in Dec 2014 in the USA. You'll only see a few cars - the one's at the front of the pack, but I've seen other footage - there were about 30 cars behind him. Enjoy!!

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOwD3pzp3-A"]2014 Legend World Finals Pro Feature - YouTube[/ame]

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07-28-2016, 07:32 AM	#18
Mandarb Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Drives: Toyota 86 Limited Location: Pretoria, South Africa Posts: 23 Thanks: 2 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's been written off since, but this was in 2013 in the Cape. The one on the left.

08-02-2016, 09:38 AM	#20
Mandarb Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Drives: Toyota 86 Limited Location: Pretoria, South Africa Posts: 23 Thanks: 2 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ok, Red Star is open tomorrow, so that's where I'll be going after I vote. Just wish they had a bit more info on how it works on the day on their site. Also long sleeves, helmet and gloves?

08-04-2016, 01:43 AM	#23
Mandarb Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Drives: Toyota 86 Limited Location: Pretoria, South Africa Posts: 23 Thanks: 2 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Didn't crash... Ha, only got one session in, misunderstanding with the marshals on when I could go out. My friend rode with, and timed me. Fastest of the 4 laps was 2:47.1. I have a lot to do to keep my head and think about hitting apexes. Couple of moments. Of course I was the slowest, only road car in a field of race cars, including what looked like Super V8s, a Mustang and Corvette. Mustang gave me a fright, coming through the last hairpin suddenly in my mirrors, and trying to give way correctly. Last lap something started vibrating, slowed down and went off. Turned out it was just the marbles. By that time we had to go, my friend had something else to do. Gave me enough to wet the appetite, but need to do research and maybe some car sims to get some theory down. Will upload some videos later, just need to get it off my dash cam.

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