Subaru Dealer Blacklist (Surprise markups and other shady dealings) - Page 30 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

by-tor · 08-16-2012, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chauntalei

That sounds like Serramonte Subaru, they were asking 6k markup, non-negotiable before the car had even been delivered. Absolutely ridiculous.

Any Bay Area dealers NOT charging a markup?

Chauntalei · 08-16-2012, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by by-tor

Any Bay Area dealers NOT charging a markup?

Capitol Subaru might not be, but everyone else is as far as I know.

Serramonte - 6k (at least)
Carlsen - 1k
Stevens Creek - ~3k
Putnam - 2-3k iirc

Those were the quoted markups when pre-orders were being taken in late April/early May. No idea if those are still accurate or not though.

by-tor · 08-17-2012, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chauntalei

Capitol Subaru might not be, but everyone else is as far as I know.

Serramonte - 6k (at least)
Carlsen - 1k
Stevens Creek - ~3k
Putnam - 2-3k iirc

Those were the quoted markups when pre-orders were being taken in late April/early May. No idea if those are still accurate or not though.

Thanks! Oakland Subaru is also marking up. I guess I should just call around and ask. I am not buying one till the markups are gone. (I might have to wait a bit in the Bay Area.)

renzO · 08-17-2012, 08:45 PM

The San Mateo Putnam Subaru had like a 10k mark up last time I was there a few days ago.

Chee-Hu · 08-18-2012, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by renzO

The San Mateo Putnam Subaru had like a 10k mark up last time I was there a few days ago.

Wow, just wow...

dcamco · 08-22-2012, 03:08 PM

For what it's worth...

Huffines Subaru in Denton wanted a $2k markup.

"This is a rare opportunity that you will most likely never see again." ...rrriiiiight.

nyeguy1138 · 08-22-2012, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcamco

For what it's worth...

Huffines Subaru in Denton wanted a $2k markup.

"This is a rare opportunity that you will most likely never see again." ...rrriiiiight.

Was that for the WRB 6MT Lim they just got in? I was debating making the drive down there tomorrow if it was still there...I guess I won't waste my time now.

dcamco · 08-22-2012, 03:23 PM

Yessir, that's the one.

terrypm · 08-24-2012, 10:42 AM

Paul Moak Subaru in Jackson MS has a white 6 speed premium on the showroom floor with a $2500.00 addendum for these 5 accessories:

1. carbon fiber key chain
2. windshield visor
3. chrome fuel cap
4. STI oil cap
5. STI battery hold down bracket

No way these 5 options are worth $500.00 apiece. They are just gouging the buyer.

jkonquer · 08-26-2012, 04:20 PM

Put ontario subaru in california as well. Just saw their ads through edmunds.com and the price is over 34k. No wonder they have two in stock

Sirnice · 09-27-2012, 01:43 PM

Fitzgerald Auto Mall, Gaithersburg MD

I went for a test drive there last week and was told to make it short. Right after I pull out of the dealers lot, I was told immediately to make a U-turn after 2 traffic lights down the street.
I feel very uncomfortable test driving the car, obviously that defeats the purpose of test drive since I didn't get to TEST the car. My top speed was under 40mph with that short 5 min drive. WTF!!! Ohh don't bother asking them to appraise for a trade in because they will LIE about the KBB value to LOW BALL the shit out of you. Never going back there and will warn friends, coworkers and relatives.

Originally Posted by Fitzgerald Auto Mall, Gaithersburg MD (Tbxgz)
Fitzgerald Auto Mall in Gaithersburg MD just slapped on $2000 mark up fee.
Originally, they pulled me in by telling me it would be MSRP pricing or below. On top of that the sales manager told me he would take my order first thing this morning... Then failed to mention today was his day off. A number of other posters around here have had really bad experiences with Fitzgerald as well. I highly recommend avoiding them if you are in the DMV area. Annapolis, Herb Gordon, and Beyer Subaru in Alexandria, are far better options with FAR better reputations.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Seconded. Have yet to have a "good" experience at Fitzgerald, sales or services or parts.

Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenfri

I agree, I didn't have a good experience with them either. I would go to Annapolis any day. They are awesome.

Sirnice · 09-27-2012, 02:06 PM

Seems like all the Subaru dealers are shady and greedy. Scion is easier to get but is the BRZ interior that much better? In the longer run these Subaru stealer will end up hurting from (lack of) sales and when these cars are available in numbers, they'll have to discount them below invoice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldnumber7

fun fact Jack Fitzgerald will ask you to speed if you're his driver and he'll pay for all your tickets. I dont work for him but my friends do.

i dont suggest subaru dealerships at cherry hill, rockville, gaithersburg md. i ended up with the fr-s at 355 toyota because they didnt give me a run around.

Norkoastal · 09-27-2012, 02:43 PM

This SFBay list is plain ridiculous!

I recommend all SF Bay waitlisters to call CO dealers (Colorado Springs is where I called) and get the car trucked in.. PM me if you have questions on the process (I was leery of the process myself but it was pretty smooth for sight unseen). Screw the local dealers and pay them a visit when you get your car for 6-7k cheaper and make them change your oil/fix your chirp.

AK1800 · 09-27-2012, 03:46 PM

In August I went to the Toyota in St. Augustine, Florida and they were marking up their FRS by $5,000.00 and no test drives until you've signed to buy. What a joke, I laughed in the guy's face and left. They might have changed their ways by now... not interested in ever going there again.

08-24-2012, 10:42 AM	#415
terrypm First86 & burning gas!! Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Asphalt 2013 Scion FR-S Location: SEC country Posts: 392 Thanks: 112 Thanked 76 Times in 51 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Paul Moak Subaru in Jackson MS has a white 6 speed premium on the showroom floor with a $2500.00 addendum for these 5 accessories: 1. carbon fiber key chain 2. windshield visor 3. chrome fuel cap 4. STI oil cap 5. STI battery hold down bracket No way these 5 options are worth $500.00 apiece. They are just gouging the buyer. __________________

08-26-2012, 04:20 PM	#416
jkonquer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 2005 Subaru STI Location: Socal Posts: 418 Thanks: 4 Thanked 73 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Put ontario subaru in california as well. Just saw their ads through edmunds.com and the price is over 34k. No wonder they have two in stock __________________

09-27-2012, 01:43 PM	#417
Sirnice Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Mini Cooper,Audi TT,FS-R(Considerin Location: Maryland Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Fitzgerald Auto Mall, Gaithersburg MD I went for a test drive there last week and was told to make it short. Right after I pull out of the dealers lot, I was told immediately to make a U-turn after 2 traffic lights down the street. I feel very uncomfortable test driving the car, obviously that defeats the purpose of test drive since I didn't get to TEST the car. My top speed was under 40mph with that short 5 min drive. WTF!!! Ohh don't bother asking them to appraise for a trade in because they will LIE about the KBB value to LOW BALL the shit out of you. Never going back there and will warn friends, coworkers and relatives. Originally Posted by Fitzgerald Auto Mall, Gaithersburg MD (Tbxgz) Fitzgerald Auto Mall in Gaithersburg MD just slapped on $2000 mark up fee. Originally, they pulled me in by telling me it would be MSRP pricing or below. On top of that the sales manager told me he would take my order first thing this morning... Then failed to mention today was his day off. A number of other posters around here have had really bad experiences with Fitzgerald as well. I highly recommend avoiding them if you are in the DMV area. Annapolis, Herb Gordon, and Beyer Subaru in Alexandria, are far better options with FAR better reputations. Quote: Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses Seconded. Have yet to have a "good" experience at Fitzgerald, sales or services or parts. Quote: Originally Posted by goldenfri I agree, I didn't have a good experience with them either. I would go to Annapolis any day. They are awesome. Last edited by Sirnice; 09-27-2012 at 09:20 PM.

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08-17-2012, 08:45 PM	#410
renzO Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: GBS-BRS, AT Location: Hayward, CA Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The San Mateo Putnam Subaru had like a 10k mark up last time I was there a few days ago.

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AK1800 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Starburst Orange Toyota Celica Location: FL/OR Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	In August I went to the Toyota in St. Augustine, Florida and they were marking up their FRS by $5,000.00 and no test drives until you've signed to buy. What a joke, I laughed in the guy's face and left. They might have changed their ways by now... not interested in ever going there again.

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