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Old 08-22-2012, 08:24 PM   #1
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FR-S vs 240Z Automobile Mag 10/2012


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Good article hot out of the SnailMail box on the FR-S vs the 240Z. Interesting note, the FR-S stalls in the article and there is a mention of a "cam gear that slips out of alignment" as the fix (right under the "As the backfire" callout on page 74).

Love the comparision of the specs on the last page and the last paragraph.

Also, BRZ joins the Automobile long-term fleet in the BRZ section of the forum here.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:29 PM   #2
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Love that the colors match for the article. The photos prove what I thought all along, Nissan should have evolved the 240Z over time into something like the 86 not the 3xxZ family.

I always had a secret longing for a 240Z. This has done nothing to help that!!
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it says 0 to 60 in 6.2 secs! ummmm
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:45 PM   #4
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Excellent article, thanks for sharing. I've always thought that the 86 twins are the modern 240z's.

Very interesting seeing the spec comparison. The weight difference is pretty good for the relative size and additional safety equipment. Interesting that the torque numbers are so similar.
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Damn that Z is so sexy... I just love old fashioned sport cars. 70's Celicas, 240Z, E-type, 2000GT, Mercedes 300SL and so on. So it makes me very happy that GT86/BRZ/FRS is so clean and classical looking beauty.
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From the silhouette, this has always been the car that the twins remind me of.
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Old 08-23-2012, 06:32 AM   #7
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Excellent article, thanks for sharing. I've always thought that the 86 twins are the modern 240z's.

Very interesting seeing the spec comparison. The weight difference is pretty good for the relative size and additional safety equipment. Interesting that the torque numbers are so similar.
I feel the same way as well - the FR-S is throwback car, from a mold we thought automakers threw away.
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Next I want to see an E30 M3 vs FR-S/BRZ comparo.
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It's so sad that, thanks to pedestrian safety and crash standards, we are unlikely to see cars with as beautiful a silhouette as the old Z, old Jags and the 2000GT.
The closest modern car with that type of long hood/short rear deck profile I can think of, is the departed S2000 (the Corvette up till the C6 fit the bill too, but the latest one not so much). I suppose there is still the Viper.
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This article brought tears to my eyes. I've dreamed about owning a 240z for years although refrained from getting one because it was unpractical, and seeing the 86 and the Z together sort of brought closure for me, freakin weird.
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I think the 370Z looks more like the 240Z in profile mainly because of the sharp raked roofline and the FRS roofline isn't exactly like that. But the 370Z bloated muscular fenders and sleek headlights and taillights doesn't match up with the old car. I think Nissan should've never made the 370Z so wide and it would've look more like the 240Z.
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surely it should be more FR-S and 2000GT rather than a datsun..even though 240's are amazing
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That Z is very clean. Do want.
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While in high school, a friend's dad had an orange (1970/71?) 240 that was in excellent condition and basically lived in the garage. Really liked the wood shift knob/steering wheel. It was even super clean under the hood. The owner was a lawyer and I have no doubt he paid top dollar to have his car expertly maintained. In fact I remember my friend had to run the car around here and there to various shops. Incidently, the father restored and rebuilt old clocks for a hobby and they had all kinds of amazing ones all over their house. Over 30 years later, I'd be willing to bet that if the father is still alive he still owns that car, really.

When I first got into my FR-S the general seating position and outside view through the windows, seeing the protruding rear fenders immediately made me think this was a modern day 240Z. Even the pointed side rear window, a cue from the Toyota 2000 GT hints of the 240Z.
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