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Don@Accelerated · 08-01-2012, 05:40 PM

Lets please let Paul do what he's gonna do. We can't compare anything yet because they haven't gotten to results. Please allow him to post as he will and ask questions. We'll compare later down the road! This is his build thread and he doesn't need heckled.

-Don

bakerr6 · 08-01-2012, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don@Accelerated

Lets please let Paul do what he's gonna do. We can't compare anything yet because they haven't gotten to results. Please allow him to post as he will and ask questions. We'll compare later down the road! This is his build thread and he doesn't need heckled.

-Don

I feel bad for you guys developing parts. Every thread I go into nowadays has numerous trolls going through trying to determine why that part is not feasible.

Silverdub · 08-01-2012, 06:42 PM

AVOturboworld · 08-01-2012, 09:22 PM

You develop a thick skin for posting, or you give up fairly soon. I'm not worried about the questions - this isn't, as they say, our first rodeo. We've been building these kits for about 3 decades now.

mike2100 · 08-01-2012, 09:37 PM

I think it's ok to say entry level, it doesn't necessarily mean bad quality. The iPhone 3GS is entry level. It's not bad quality; it just has limited features and expandability options.

I, for one, hope AVO develops a kit for the new 2.0 Impreza (FB20). We just bought one for my wife and it could use a nice, reliable kick in the pants.

wallace03 · 08-01-2012, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

On behalf of CA FR-S/BRZ owners (and wanna-be owners) I would like to ask you to please provide an option for the intercooler/intake piping to be that black silicone/rubber.

It looks like it can sorta pass as stock which is a godsend for us over here who have to smog frequently and where the CHP is cracking down on illegal parts.

Stock airbox utilization is brilliant and gets us halfway there to passing without removing the kit.

california isnt allowed to have after market turbos?

nix · 08-01-2012, 10:11 PM

Majority of the world isn't for environmental reasons.

Gen · 08-01-2012, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallace03

california isnt allowed to have after market turbos?

Not unless it's CARB approved. I'll give you a guess on how many kits out there have that approval.

wallace03 · 08-01-2012, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gen

Not unless it's CARB approved. I'll give you a guess on how many kits out there have that approval.

im not sure what carb is. is it only california? im assuming factory turbos are fine? dont turbo make cars more efficient?

Gen · 08-01-2012, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallace03

im not sure what carb is. is it only california? im assuming factory turbos are fine? dont turbo make cars more efficient?

California Air Resource Board

Even if you can pass the sniffer no problem, if they see any aftermarket part that can impact emissions that has no CARB approval you'll fail smog.

ImAwesome · 08-01-2012, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallace03

im not sure what carb is. is it only california? im assuming factory turbos are fine? dont turbo make cars more efficient?

California Air Resources Board

edit: beat me to it

Visconti · 08-01-2012, 10:29 PM

Looks good guys - I've seen your stuff before - and it works.

-John

wallace03 · 08-01-2012, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gen

California Air Resource Board

Even if you can pass the sniffer no problem, if they see any aftermarket part that can impact emissions that has no CARB approval you'll fail smog.

that sucks, especially because cali has such a big tuning community. looks like im not moving there anytime soon.

AVOturboworld · 08-01-2012, 10:36 PM

Depending on who you talk to, anything that isn't electric or runs on unicorn farts isn't efficient enough.

I think there's a certain assumption that because we are not going to charge 6-8k, it's going to be some cheapo kit. That's certainly not the case - it's just that there's several factors here, such as economy of scale. We are not planning on selling 5-10 kits a year, we are instead planning to make most of the parts on our factory lines in larger amounts. This brings costs down quite a bit. We are not picking wire-reinforced silicone for the piping because it's cheap - it's not, when you are getting it moulded to specific shapes - we are doing it because it works best for this application. Wire reinforced silicone is *tough*, you could stand on it.

We won't be going for ultimate horsepower, either. While we could, it's not in our planning for this kit. What we want to see, and what we aim for with the main kit, is similar to our other kits - boost from 1500rpm with a very strong mid-range. With reliability.

I also don't have any desire to get into any arguments over who's got a better kit. It's like saying what's better, italian or mexican food. At the end of the day, people are simply gonna have their own preference regardless of what is claimed about either.

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08-01-2012, 05:40 PM	#113
Don@Accelerated Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: Toledo Ohio Posts: 880 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1,162 Times in 316 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lets please let Paul do what he's gonna do. We can't compare anything yet because they haven't gotten to results. Please allow him to post as he will and ask questions. We'll compare later down the road! This is his build thread and he doesn't need heckled. -Don

08-01-2012, 09:22 PM	#116
AVOturboworld Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 "AVO Orange" FR-S Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 69 Thanked 2,277 Times in 636 Posts Mentioned: 108 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	You develop a thick skin for posting, or you give up fairly soon. I'm not worried about the questions - this isn't, as they say, our first rodeo. We've been building these kits for about 3 decades now.

08-01-2012, 10:29 PM	#124
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08-01-2012, 10:36 PM	#126
AVOturboworld Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 "AVO Orange" FR-S Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 69 Thanked 2,277 Times in 636 Posts Mentioned: 108 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Depending on who you talk to, anything that isn't electric or runs on unicorn farts isn't efficient enough. I think there's a certain assumption that because we are not going to charge 6-8k, it's going to be some cheapo kit. That's certainly not the case - it's just that there's several factors here, such as economy of scale. We are not planning on selling 5-10 kits a year, we are instead planning to make most of the parts on our factory lines in larger amounts. This brings costs down quite a bit. We are not picking wire-reinforced silicone for the piping because it's cheap - it's not, when you are getting it moulded to specific shapes - we are doing it because it works best for this application. Wire reinforced silicone is tough, you could stand on it. We won't be going for ultimate horsepower, either. While we could, it's not in our planning for this kit. What we want to see, and what we aim for with the main kit, is similar to our other kits - boost from 1500rpm with a very strong mid-range. With reliability. I also don't have any desire to get into any arguments over who's got a better kit. It's like saying what's better, italian or mexican food. At the end of the day, people are simply gonna have their own preference regardless of what is claimed about either.

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