FR-S/BRZ vs. Genesis Coupe

[aliphian]

Originally Posted by RRnold

but at the end of the day... it's still a Hyundai.

They are turning it around dude. I predict in 5 years or so, they will be a major contender in the automotive world. I am not ashamed to drive a Hyundai. When the FT comes out and the Genesis gets a refresh, I may just pick up a used first gen Genesis for a very nice price.

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by Want.FR-S

Is it me or something is quite funny. Does the front wheel in the picture seem larger than the one in the rear? How would this kind of setup help in winter driving?

They're staggered .

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay

thats what people were saying abput the GTR

its still a datsun... that kicks the ass

a car regardless of name can be a great car

lol. Datsun GTR.

And Mr.Jay is right, the brand is almost meaningless IMHO especially for certain cars that are distinctly unlike their brand parent.

You should be able to compare cars based on their own name, qualities, and history. Eg, the FT-86 should be judged on it's own merits not the family brand history alone. Because, as we all know, it's not just another Toyota or just another Subaru .

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay

thats what people were saying abput the GTR

its still a datsun... that kicks the ass

a car regardless of name can be a great car

Dude, not even close! How can you call the name change of one Japanese auto maker to another as a comparison.

I'm not down with the Korean automobiles and especially the motorcycles because they are biters! How are they gonna take Yamaha R1 and make a Yamuda K1!!

Hyosung makes real bikes but I wouldn't bother!

Originally Posted by bofa

I understand what you are saying, but I'm kinda with Rrnold... I still can't bring myself to shop a Hyundai or a Kia.

Originally Posted by aliphian

They are turning it around dude. I predict in 5 years or so, they will be a major contender in the automotive world. I am not ashamed to drive a Hyundai. When the FT comes out and the Genesis gets a refresh, I may just pick up a used first gen Genesis for a very nice price.

Man, good luck with that!

I wouldn't even buy a Scion and even give Hyundai or Kia a thought! I have the same feeling towards GMC, Chevy and Ford.

I'm barely having enough trust on Korean electronics aka the Samsung's 1000uF cap problems on their LCD TV's!

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[4agze]

Only thing i see hyundais problem & why they never have the respect of the rest of the automotive enthusiast is they never had a respectable racing history yet, no chamionship international win on any respected racing series? In my eyes they are still a young company, seeing the genesis is a step on the right direction.

[ToyotaObsession]

Originally Posted by RRnold

I wouldn't even buy a Scion and even give Hyundai or Kia a thought! I have the same feeling towards GMC, Chevy and Ford.

So what would you buy?

[ToyotaObsession]

Originally Posted by 4agze

Only thing i see hyundais problem & why they never have the respect of the rest of the automotive enthusiast is they never had a respectable racing history yet, no chamionship international win on any respected racing series? In my eyes they are still a young company, seeing the genesis is a step on the right direction.

They don't have respect, because for years they churned out cheap, broken crap.

It has nothing to do with winning races.

But they have turned it around, and while they aren't as reliable as Toyota and Honda they are climbing. More importantly the way people perceive them has changed to being very reliable.

[Random_Art]

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

They don't have respect, because for years they churned out cheap, broken crap.

It has nothing to do with winning races.

But they have turned it around, and while they aren't as reliable as Toyota and Honda they are climbing. More importantly the way people perceive them has changed to being very reliable.

My parents have a 2001 santa fe that they bought in early 2001 as a brand new car. They still have it and it's got over 200k miles on it with no major problems.

[Want.FR-S]

Originally Posted by Want.FR-S

Is it me or something is quite funny. Does the front wheel in the picture seem larger than the one in the rear? How would this kind of setup help in winter driving?

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

They're staggered .

lol. Datsun GTR.

Gen Coupe being a RWD car, is there any benefit of having the reverse staggered setup? That is something I would like to know.

BTW, I only know Datsun 240Z. Did not know there was a Datsun GTR.....

[Random_Art]

Originally Posted by Want.FR-S

Gen Coupe being a RWD car, is there any benefit of having the reverse staggered setup? That is something I would like to know.

BTW, I only know Datsun 240Z. Did not know there was a Datsun GTR.....

yep. According to wikipedia it started in 1957 as the "Prince Skyline" the first GT-R version came out in 1969 under the Nissan badge. It was exported under the Datsun badge in the 1970's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_skyline

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Want.FR-S

BTW, I only know Datsun 240Z. Did not know there was a Datsun GTR.....

Datsun made other cars/trucks too. Like 260/280z/zx, 510 and so... but I think he was been sarcasm

Originally Posted by Random_Art

yep. According to wikipedia it started in 1957 as the "Prince Skyline" the first GT-R version came out in 1969 under the Nissan badge. It was exported under the Datsun badge in the 1970's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_skyline

Yes, but Prince never came GT-R emblem. Also C110 was iirc only imported the normal ver and never GT-R ver. Only as 160, 180 & 240k.. but of course, I could be wrong

[Want.FR-S]

Originally Posted by Want.FR-S

BTW, I only know Datsun 240Z. Did not know there was a Datsun GTR.....

Originally Posted by Random_Art

yep. According to wikipedia it started in 1957 as the "Prince Skyline" the first GT-R version came out in 1969 under the Nissan badge. It was exported under the Datsun badge in the 1970's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_skyline

From this page there is the C110 Prince Skyline that was exported as Datsun 240K, however, not the GT-R version of the Skyline according to the same page:

.... Under C110 section
GT-R

The Nissan Skyline GT-R hardtop arrived in September 1972 but only lasted until March 1973, when Nissan ceased its production. The oil crisis saw many people preferring economy cars and high-performance sports cars were looked down upon. Nissan pulled out of Motor Racing, so there was no purpose to the GT-R. It was not officially exported anywhere, although Nissan contemplated exporting to Australia. Only 197 KPGC110 GT-Rs were ever sold in Japan,[9] through specialist Nissan Performance shops (before it was called NISMO). This was the last GT-R for 16 years until the BNR32 in 1989.


Hmmm so 240K is for the Skyline and 240Z is for the Z car. Learned something old today.

[Neutral_Eyes]

Originally Posted by Random_Art

My parents have a 2001 santa fe that they bought in early 2001 as a brand new car. They still have it and it's got over 200k miles on it with no major problems.

Perhaps I'm just unlucky, or perhaps I shouldn't have put too much faith in a shitbox, but I wasn't too happy when my 2004 Accent's transmission decided to shatter $1700 worth of gears at 68k miles. Sometimes you just can't escape lemonhood.

[Random_Art]

Originally Posted by Neutral_Eyes

Perhaps I'm just unlucky, or perhaps I shouldn't have put too much faith in a shitbox, but I wasn't too happy when my 2004 Accent's transmission decided to shatter $1700 worth of gears at 68k miles. Sometimes you just can't escape lemonhood.

Exactly. I had a 2002 Mazda Protege5 that I bought with 45k miles on it and traded in at about 60k because the transmission kept nuking itself. It kept blowing out the rear passenger tire, even though the alignment checked out fine. One of the rear calipers seized up on it. It kept blowing headlights every couple of months. It was when the transmission started leaking for a third time that I've had enough and traded it in for my Celica.

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

So what would you buy?

For domestic cars, I wouldn't consider anything 1975+. I wouldn't buy any car Korean made and even some Japanese cars as well; Mitsubishi and some Nissans.

Even some of the German cars, I would likely think it through, VW, Audi, BMW and even MB. Most of the German cars can be a hit or miss when it comes to dependability.