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Old 06-08-2015, 11:54 AM   #2521
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Why the fuck would you go to the dealer with aftermarket headers? Of course the code will obviously be exhaust related

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Why not??? .
It's no different then any other aftermarket part. You must have the fancier CEL indicator that displays the code on the dash.
I'm not going to get in a pissing match over this. I was just relating on experience I had.
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Why not??? .
It's no different then any other aftermarket part. You must have the fancier CEL indicator that displays the code on the dash.
I'm not going to get in a pissing match over this. I was just relating on experience I had.
My SRT-4 does this

But in all seriousness, why didn't you just go to autozone or something and get the code read for free?
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Why not??? .
It's no different then any other aftermarket part. You must have the fancier CEL indicator that displays the code on the dash.
I'm not going to get in a pissing match over this. I was just relating on experience I had.
Because when modifying a car regardless of cat don't you know the codes that will usually come up after said mod? Also autozone and parts store do it for free or you could invest in a $5 elm 327 obd2 bluetooth dongle and do it yourself with a smartphone.......

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This is what we have on the site for the header product description.

"No CEL, as well, for those who wish to not stare at a light on the dash when using the header alone. If you have other mods, you will want to utilize a tuning solution as you have dramatically changed air volume with intake or cat back exhausts."

He has an aftermarket intake that is most likely causing the CEL to come on combined with our header.


I got this response from FT-86 and my only suggestion was that they move the note to the top of the description and not have it buried in the middle.
I should have read the "fine print"
Like I said before this isn't worth getting into a pissing match over.
I haven't been to the forum in quite awhile and now remember why.
Caveat Emptor!
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I was asking about below NOT about the CEL.
They seem pretty intent on not answering this.... I've seen multiple people ask this question with no response that I've seen from @FT-86 SpeedFactory
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To resolve the issue could you just get one of those 02 sensor spacer thingys?
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To resolve the issue could you just get one of those 02 sensor spacer thingys?
There's an awesome and powerful great trick called "getting a tune"
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Old 06-11-2015, 06:56 PM   #2528
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That blog post is wicked old and was made before we really finalized the product.

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They seem pretty intent on not answering this.... I've seen multiple people ask this question with no response that I've seen from @FT-86 SpeedFactory
Because we have answered it before in this thread and others.

The header comes with a normal cat rated for 5 liters of air flow and is 49 state legal. This car does not produce even close to 5L of airflow so it is more than ample.

Again, which we have said a few hundred times now it feels like. The ft86 owners a while back wanted a header that on a stock car removed the torque dip, and provided no CEL. This header does just that and we tested for 5000 miles in three separate cars, in 3 different climates before releasing.

If you make another modification, like intake or something else exhaust wise, you are changing the formula for this header and you could then get a CEL. A tune is always highly recommended but for the guys who enjoy their car the way it is, and want to get rid of the torque dip that is exactly what this header is for.

We stand behind our product and to date, there has been two cat actual cat failures. Both of those we replaced under our warranty.
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There's an awesome and powerful great trick called "getting a tune"

That very true and there's this awesome and powerful thing call a "budget".
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That very true and there's this awesome and powerful thing call a "budget".

Well then you're not budgeting your time or money correctly if you don't see a foreseeable common issue.....
Also its not proper to not have a tune with a "serious" mod like this, you won't get the proper gains and the car will just be plain inefficient
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That very true and there's this awesome and powerful thing call a "budget".
Save a bit longer and then do it all at once.
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Been slacking on making a video but here's a few pulls with my set up.

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[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76vPClIAky0"]Greddy Supreme Sp Cat-Back Exhaust for FRS/BRZ - YouTube[/ame]
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Well then you're not budgeting your time or money correctly if you don't see a foreseeable common issue.....
Also its not proper to not have a tune with a "serious" mod like this, you won't get the proper gains and the car will just be plain inefficient
You are forgetting, some of us live in states where you will not pass inspection with most any CEL being thrown. Suppressing the CEL makes the ECU show a forced readiness situation and it wont pass. Throwing the guy inspecting your car a 50 doesn't work either because the computer they use to check your ECU is owned by the state. It sucks. If anyone knows a way around it that doesn't involve swapping parts back and forth, I would love to hear it. THAT is the market for these headers... why would you get a catted header otherwise?

I got my catted header and headerback to kill the torque dip (which it does quite well) and replace the uninspiring noises made by the stock car, while not needing a tune whatsoever. I never expected big gains, but the low and midrange gains were noticeable, more so than I thought they would at least. Truth is, even with a tune the gains you will see won't really be worth the money unless you can run E85, which I can't get near me.
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You are forgetting, some of us live in states where you will not pass inspection with most any CEL being thrown. Suppressing the CEL makes the ECU show a forced readiness situation and it wont pass. Throwing the guy inspecting your car a 50 doesn't work either because the computer they use to check your ECU is owned by the state. It sucks. If anyone knows a way around it that doesn't involve swapping parts back and forth, I would love to hear it. THAT is the market for these headers... why would you get a catted header otherwise?

I got my catted header and headerback to kill the torque dip (which it does quite well) and replace the uninspiring noises made by the stock car, while not needing a tune whatsoever. I never expected big gains, but the low and midrange gains were noticeable, more so than I thought they would at least. Truth is, even with a tune the gains you will see won't really be worth the money unless you can run E85, which I can't get near me.

I'm guessing you don't know much about the car, because a tune is a surefire way to pass emissions as long as a sniffer is not involved, the tune is for getting rid of the risk of a CEL.....sarcasm...
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