2020 Toyota GR Supra Revealed! - Page 42 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Captain Snooze · 02-05-2019, 07:50 PM

I am yet to see a comparison between the new Supra and a Yaris.

Kaotic Lazagna · 02-05-2019, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I am yet to see a comparison between the new Supra and a Yaris.

I wonder what members here would choose. The new Supra, or the GRMN Yaris?

krayzie · 02-05-2019, 09:51 PM

Why not 86GRMN?

funwheeldrive · 02-05-2019, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mrg666

There are so many misconceptions and lies about the new Supra. Also check this out.

- It is not a BMW factory building both cars
- Z4 and Supra design and tests were done independently after joint platform design.
- Toyota did not simply take an existing BMW engine. The engine was completely redesigned jointly matching Toyota reliability standards
- The 8-speed transmission is not even BMW
so on ....

I was thinking about buying a Corvette Stingray while it is still front engine but, I think, I will need to take a good look at Supra as well.

I thought both cars were being built in Austria, this isn't the case?

Captain Snooze · 02-05-2019, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

I thought both cars were being built in Austria, this isn't the case?

They are, it is the case.

Captain Snooze · 02-05-2019, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

I wonder what members here would choose. The new Supra, or the GRMN Yaris?

Oh boy!! There's a thread derailment right there!

86MLR · 02-05-2019, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrg666

There are so many misconceptions and lies about the new Supra. Also check this out.

- It is not a BMW factory building both cars
- Z4 and Supra design and tests were done independently after joint platform design.
- Toyota did not simply take an existing BMW engine. The engine was completely redesigned jointly matching Toyota reliability standards
- The 8-speed transmission is not even BMW
so on ....

I was thinking about buying a Corvette Stingray while it is still front engine but, I think, I will need to take a good look at Supra as well.

Where is the car built?

What is the gearbox from?

What engine is it based on?

As for the engine and build design, yes, Toyota did add their imput into the design, but, to what extent?

I've found information stating that:

The engine is a redesigned BMW job

Gear box is BMW

Rearend is BMW

Interior is BMW

Electronics is BMW

I'm looking forward for all the smoke to clear

There is still to much speculation and hearsay, and information from reviewers that smell like stupid

I see it being typical to rhe Toyota and Subaru twin calabration

Spuds · 02-05-2019, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

I wonder what members here would choose. The new Supra, or the GRMN Yaris?

Oh boy... I might have to pick the Yaris on this one...

Captain Snooze · 02-06-2019, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 86MLR

Where is the car built?
Gear box is BMW

It isn't a BMW gearbox, it's a ZF gearbox that BMW also uses.

86MLR · 02-06-2019, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

It isn't a BMW gearbox, it's a ZF gearbox that BMW also uses.

Cheers for the clarification

gymratter · 02-06-2019, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

It isn't a BMW gearbox, it's a ZF gearbox that BMW also uses.

yup, as well as many other automarkers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission

Captain Snooze · 02-06-2019, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by gymratter

yup, as well as many other automarkers.

Sure but I would like to point out the ZF transmission isn't used in the Yaris.

mrg666 · 02-06-2019, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

I thought both cars were being built in Austria, this isn't the case?

It is an independent manufacturer in Austria, not a BMW facility.

krayzie · 02-06-2019, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

It isn't a BMW gearbox, it's a ZF gearbox that BMW also uses.

As if BMW actually build its own slush boxes for its production cars?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrg666

It is an independent manufacturer in Austria, not a BMW facility.

As if it doesn't build other BMWs there.

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