86 now shown as upcoming on US Toyota site

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

Holy shit that's ugly.

Arnold says it best

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcgRaf38uCQ"]You're One Ugly Motherfucker! (Predator 1987) HD - YouTube[/ame]

[JD001]

Originally Posted by S84kam

why did they drop the GT? So its just called an 86?

Does the Twin fit the GT as defined below?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_tourer

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by JD001

Does the Twin fit the GT as defined below?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_tourer

In Japan it was always called "86" since the top trim is known as "GT Limited".

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by krayzie

In Japan it was always called "86" since the top trim is known as "GT Limited".

And "GT" is nothing more than a throwback to the 2000GT name.

The ONLY reason this car is called an "86" is for marketing purposes. It gives the enthusiasts something to hang a reference on. It doesn't share any styling cues with the AE86, nor does it share any technical inspiration other than being RWD. It's not any more a relative of the AE86 than a second step-cousin twice removed.

The style of this car is based on the 2000GT. The underpinnings are new. But if Toyota had said, "We're bringing back the 2000GT," the majority of potential buyers would have said, "The what?" Then, since the 2000GTs that still exist are going for $1M or more, people would have concluded that the new car would be expensive. So they hung the 86 on it to imply that it would be cheap.

This forced "lineage" is goofy.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

And "GT" is nothing more than a throwback to the 2000GT name.

The ONLY reason this car is called an "86" is for marketing purposes. It gives the enthusiasts something to hang a reference on. It doesn't share any styling cues with the AE86, nor does it share any technical inspiration other than being RWD. It's not any more a relative of the AE86 than a second step-cousin twice removed.

The style of this car is based on the 2000GT. The underpinnings are new. But if Toyota had said, "We're bringing back the 2000GT," the majority of potential buyers would have said, "The what?" Then, since the 2000GTs that still exist are going for $1M or more, people would have concluded that the new car would be expensive. So they hung the 86 on it to imply that it would be cheap.

This forced "lineage" is goofy.

Almost as goofy as a bunch of skinny white boys, Latinos or non Japanese Asians using words like "Zenki and Kouki" based on the simple fact they own a car built in Japan.


#JDM4LIFEYO

[theparagon]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

Then, since the 2000GTs that still exist are going for $1M or more, people would have concluded that the new car would be expensive.

And they originally sold for the equivalent of $48,000 in today's dollars. And was considered a high priced halo car. Wish I was alive and had $6,800 in 1967.

[LOLS2K]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Almost as goofy as a bunch of skinny white boys, Latinos or non Japanese Asians using words like "Zenki and Kouki" based on the simple fact they own a car built in Japan.


#JDM4LIFEYO

Once again you leave out fat blacks

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by LOLS2K

Once again you leave out fat blacks

I would like to think they are smarter than the wantabes.

[Tbird232ci]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

And "GT" is nothing more than a throwback to the 2000GT name.

The ONLY reason this car is called an "86" is for marketing purposes. It gives the enthusiasts something to hang a reference on. It doesn't share any styling cues with the AE86, nor does it share any technical inspiration other than being RWD. It's not any more a relative of the AE86 than a second step-cousin twice removed.

The style of this car is based on the 2000GT. The underpinnings are new. But if Toyota had said, "We're bringing back the 2000GT," the majority of potential buyers would have said, "The what?" Then, since the 2000GTs that still exist are going for $1M or more, people would have concluded that the new car would be expensive. So they hung the 86 on it to imply that it would be cheap.

This forced "lineage" is goofy.

It does share one styling cue...the dash clock.

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

And "GT" is nothing more than a throwback to the 2000GT name.

The ONLY reason this car is called an "86" is for marketing purposes. It gives the enthusiasts something to hang a reference on. It doesn't share any styling cues with the AE86, nor does it share any technical inspiration other than being RWD. It's not any more a relative of the AE86 than a second step-cousin twice removed.

The style of this car is based on the 2000GT. The underpinnings are new. But if Toyota had said, "We're bringing back the 2000GT," the majority of potential buyers would have said, "The what?" Then, since the 2000GTs that still exist are going for $1M or more, people would have concluded that the new car would be expensive. So they hung the 86 on it to imply that it would be cheap.

This forced "lineage" is goofy.

I was just answering whoever asked why the "GT" was dropped from "GT86" for the twins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_86

Toyota 86 in Asia, South Africa, North America (from August 2016), South America and Australia;[1] GT86 in Europe; both of the preceding names in New Zealand; FT86 in Nicaragua and Jamaica;
Subaru BRZ worldwide;
Scion FR-S in the US and Canada. After August 2016 the Scion FR-S will be renamed as the Toyota 86.[2][3]

[Dark]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

Not really.

Hmm NO. 86 is a spiritual successor to Corolla GTS Levin/Trueno A.K.A AE86. Most people here probably have no idea what AE86 is, a damn Corolla.

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Almost as goofy as a bunch of skinny white boys, Latinos or non Japanese Asians using words like "Zenki and Kouki" based on the simple fact they own a car built in Japan.


#JDM4LIFEYO

I'm Cantonese and to me Zenki and Kouki is basically 前期 and 後期 in Chinese that are stupidly similar phonetically with the same meanings (duh where do you think Japanese people originated from).

What's more goofy is the Japanese that can't even simply explain the meaning and use of "san" to the gwai lo here.

JDM4LIFEYO in reality has been around a lot longer outside of Japan than the interweb would have you believe. Yet back in the 80's in Japan it was mostly USA4LIFEBAKA!

BTW here's 86's sexy cruising ancestor (check out the 86's new steering wheel inspiration):

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GoWMQSfG9o"]AE86 ニュルブルクリンク トレノ編 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3tFDcVo1rU"]AE86 ニュルブルクリンク　レビン編 - YouTube[/ame]

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Dark

Hmm NO. 86 is a spiritual successor to Corolla GTS Levin/Trueno A.K.A AE86. Most people here probably have no idea what AE86 is, a damn Corolla.

"Spiritual successor" is a LOLtastic marketing term. Nothing more. This car has absolutely nothing to do with those cars other than the campaign a marketing team put together to convince you there was a connection.

[noobcake]

Originally Posted by GhostRai

Forget the Toyota 86, I'm more excited for the new 2017 Corolla. I mean just look at that new "daring new front end"!

http://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/corolla/

The black front grill thing really took off, I think first it was audi's that did it? then the evos had it, now its lexus,toyota and hyundai doing it. Some people just plastidip the front black to make it seem like a grill