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Old 08-23-2014, 12:11 AM   #169
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We have an email re these kits direct from Sprintex, I am of the opinion to run the bigger blower will require a built motor.

I am very worried about hurting the con rods with to much boost at low engine RPM speed.




We are happy with the efficency of the charge cooler system on our development car , we are also looking at measure IAT before the SC and the charged air after the charger to help build a added Race Rom map for better control of IAT compensations;

The Bigger charger will make our cars fly with a built motor.

We hope to have an upgraded charger very soon for development

Where is the Unicorn and other idiots who called me a dumbass for saying the rods were the weak link in this motor. No way I' boost, don't have time for it. It has plenty power as is.
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I think we've known the rods were the weak point for a long time now... It's really the only thing that has broken on the engine due to high power. There are some other more isolated failures with bearings/cams but I wouldn't do really high boost without doing a built bottom end with rods. Rods breaking can take out all kinds of expensive stuff. I imagine if it failed the wrong way it could even damage the supercharger on top of the engine.
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Ran across this - old old thread so sorry for the necro, but thinking about these kits. Anyone know what happened to the 210+? I never hear of any kits out there (and their results).
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Ran across this - old old thread so sorry for the necro, but thinking about these kits. Anyone know what happened to the 210+? I never hear of any kits out there (and their results).
For what it's worth, my friend bought the version with the front mount intercooler. He has his final tune revision and it actually pulls very hard. I'm trying to get him to go onto a dyno, but after driving it, i'd estimate (with catless headers and exhaust) he's sitting on about 245whp, which feels very fast in this car.

Correct me please if the 215+ is something entirely different...
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For what it's worth, my friend bought the version with the front mount intercooler. He has his final tune revision and it actually pulls very hard. I'm trying to get him to go onto a dyno, but after driving it, i'd estimate (with catless headers and exhaust) he's sitting on about 245whp, which feels very fast in this car.



Correct me please if the 215+ is something entirely different...
Yeah from my reading on here (and theres a lot of it lol) sprintex came out with a refined version with a higher rpm threshold and maybe a little higher efficiency. I think the stage 2 210s with optimized tune and catless headers can make around 260 on 93 octane. Was curious if anyone has beaten that with a 210+. You can be right around 300 +/- with e85 or close with a good meth injection kit, but I would probably run 93 most of the time.

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Ran across this - old old thread so sorry for the necro, but thinking about these kits. Anyone know what happened to the 210+? I never hear of any kits out there (and their results).
210+ = 210 SPS
They made them, the noise on the forum died out though. I'm sure that @86 South Africa runs one.
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210+ = 210 SPS

They made them, the noise on the forum died out though. I'm sure that @86 South Africa runs one.
Ah ok didn't pick that up despite reading pages of posts :/ thanks!

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With na mods stopping at 200 whp I'm considering some conservative boost myself. The guys who told me 5 years ago that id end up doing this were on the money.
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210+ = 210 SPS
They made them, the noise on the forum died out though. I'm sure that @86 South Africa runs one.
I do indeed
Sorry haven’t been hugely active on here.

Driven both the normal 210 kits, and the SPS (which I decided was worth the extra cash). It’s in the region of 10-15% more efficient, which means it manages heat better + makes a little more power.
No idea how much HP you’d gain, but my thinking was if it’s more efficient generally and therefore manages heat better then it was worth it.

Been driving mine on and off different %s of ethanol for well over a year now, and it’s awesome. With 50-70% ethanol I’ve kicked some GTi ass a couple of times too which was quite satisfying.
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According to Jon Bond Performance, the only difference in the so called new sprintex x or plus, is the rotors are coated from sprintex for better heat management. Which results in a tiny improvement of efficiency. Sprintex still hasn’t resolved the front seal issue in so much as the units use oil, fact. I had my rebuilt 2 times by Jon Bond performance. Second time was under his warranty. Also Bond offers this service of ceramic coating the rotor pac as well.
The money I had in this used unit I could have easily paid for an Elderbrock or an optioned out JDL turbo set up. I’d be curious to know how the Jeep folks are doing with the oil situation in the intake manifold.
Simply updating user manuals with check oil more frequently is sprintex,s form of customer service. I had to cut my losses. Back N/A on E85 delicious stage 2 tune set up and no more worrying. Even you guys with the new blower set up, for giggles and grins, pull your blower off for inspection, tell me the intake manifold is not coated in supercharger nose drive gear oil. Guarantee you it is. Do not **** around without checking your supercharger oil at minimum once a week. Just my personal PSA . Last conversation with Jon Bond, he was going to stop rebuilding these units. Verify with Jon, or better yet try and get replacement parts I. E. Seals and bearing kits from Sprintex. Good luck.
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According to Jon Bond Performance, the only difference in the so called new sprintex x or plus, is the rotors are coated from sprintex for better heat management. Which results in a tiny improvement of efficiency. Sprintex still hasn’t resolved the front seal issue in so much as the units use oil, fact. I had my rebuilt 2 times by Jon Bond performance. Second time was under his warranty. Also Bond offers this service of ceramic coating the rotor pac as well.
The money I had in this used unit I could have easily paid for an Elderbrock or an optioned out JDL turbo set up. I’d be curious to know how the Jeep folks are doing with the oil situation in the intake manifold.
Simply updating user manuals with check oil more frequently is sprintex,s form of customer service. I had to cut my losses. Back N/A on E85 delicious stage 2 tune set up and no more worrying. Even you guys with the new blower set up, for giggles and grins, pull your blower off for inspection, tell me the intake manifold is not coated in supercharger nose drive gear oil. Guarantee you it is. Do not **** around without checking your supercharger oil at minimum once a week. Just my personal PSA . Last conversation with Jon Bond, he was going to stop rebuilding these units. Verify with Jon, or better yet try and get replacement parts I. E. Seals and bearing kits from Sprintex. Good luck.
Ugh. I'm just about to pick up my Sprintex 210 kit and now I'm worried..
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According to Jon Bond Performance, the only difference in the so called new sprintex x or plus, is the rotors are coated from sprintex for better heat management. Which results in a tiny improvement of efficiency. Sprintex still hasn’t resolved the front seal issue in so much as the units use oil, fact. I had my rebuilt 2 times by Jon Bond performance. Second time was under his warranty. Also Bond offers this service of ceramic coating the rotor pac as well.
The money I had in this used unit I could have easily paid for an Elderbrock or an optioned out JDL turbo set up. I’d be curious to know how the Jeep folks are doing with the oil situation in the intake manifold.
Simply updating user manuals with check oil more frequently is sprintex,s form of customer service. I had to cut my losses. Back N/A on E85 delicious stage 2 tune set up and no more worrying. Even you guys with the new blower set up, for giggles and grins, pull your blower off for inspection, tell me the intake manifold is not coated in supercharger nose drive gear oil. Guarantee you it is. Do not **** around without checking your supercharger oil at minimum once a week. Just my personal PSA . Last conversation with Jon Bond, he was going to stop rebuilding these units. Verify with Jon, or better yet try and get replacement parts I. E. Seals and bearing kits from Sprintex. Good luck.
Well that sucks!! If jon bond decides to stop rebuilding them.

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I just checked my SC oil for the 1st time in 5k miles, still on the full level on the dipstick. Some must be worse than others. When my car has the valve spring recall done it will give me a chance to assess what the blower is doing after 25k worth of miles.
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Ugh. I'm just about to pick up my Sprintex 210 kit and now I'm worried..

Don't be worried I had the 210 for close on 3 yrs and it copped a bit of a flogging and checked and topped up oil every month or so with no issues.


Had a 69mm pulley and rev limiter set to 7800 so it was over revved alot and it's still good !
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