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to answer OP, i would go with exhaust as first mod. sounds too much like a tractor stock. |
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In wet it was really bad. Two or three times I did a 360 making a u-turn in the rain....not fun. Also if I remember correctly, it was just under 10k miles they lasted. The current set of Indy 500s are almost at the same 10k and they easily have another 15-20k miles in them still even with my aggressive driving. |
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I've always been boggled by this when reading about our cars and UEL's, so when people say the UEL is better for torque and the EL better for top end, is there any truth to that?
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Edit I forgot about PTuning. A custom tune is required to get the best out of them. Last edited by RToyo86; 07-02-2019 at 08:16 AM. |
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Oh Gawd....lmao no worries here, I'd rather not have one at all honestly.
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Do you know if OFT makes tunes for such headers?
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Not that I'm aware of. The generic OFT tunes aren't optimized properly.
My understanding is that the cam tables are entirely different. You could use ECUTEK and custom tune that way. Delicious has a ace header specific tune you can run. I believe counter space garage has a package available with header+tune. |
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For a UEL header, I found no advantage, science says it's bad, race engine/exhaust builders say it's bad, internet on the other hand is of two minds. I have found that the internet is generally waffle. IMO the best looking pre-fabed headers on the market look like ACE. ACE have different headers for different HP levels, rim sizes and final drives, both 4:1 and 4:2:1 Plus a tuned header keeps the fluid and thermal dynamic gods happy. But not my wallet. Me, If I could justify spending the coin (most likely $2.5-3k) to try another header, a ACE 350 looks like a good bit of kit with alot of though gone into the design. Pity about the cost to get one to my door. But as I don't race for sheep stations I'll just deal with my comprised catless OEM 4:2:1 ELish header. TL;DR this linky explains the basics much better than I ever could > https://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/...header-tuning/
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I don't know.....for 1/3 of the price I would just save the extra $1k paid for the Ace and get the Gruppe-S UEL.
Not worth the extra $1k for what would only show on a dyno graph. Bang for buck for paying that extra $1k is not that great: [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggQspB1P7a4[/ame] Halfway to the price for a FI setup just for a header and a few extra HP doesn't seem to make much financial sense. |
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I was / still am taking the perspective of "less is more" , in other words keep things simple. That's what makes our cars great, they are fairly simple in our modern age. You can modify add / delete certain things, try to make things better, but often times it takes a good chunk of money $2k+ and/or a good amount of time to do so. I'm all for protective mods , and keeping much of it all OE , which does add value.
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