Tia - FBM Auto FR-S Review

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Ross

I would definitely recommend doing some logging to see what is going on. Smoothing is on 5 and the graph is all over the place. Maf voltage, timing, air fuel, cam timing intake and exhaust, knock, and trims should all be looked over.

The issue is the AFR at this point, we don't know how low his AFR actually was during this run since it looks like that sensor's minimum is around 10:1. Do you have a wideband installed or was the dyno's AFR sensor reading properly?

[Ross]

I have run into issues when renting a dyno so I always have a secondary system with me already set up. Some times there on the money sometimes they are off. I always recommend people, especially with mods, have a wideband in there car.

[utekineir]

looks good

[448hpsti]

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

"Looks good!"

Had another tuner take a look at my logs and disagree. +10 hp on pump and a clean afr later*I'm a happy camper.

Lol.

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by itdansharpe

Funny that you bring this up. I'm in the middle of getting a refund. My butt dyno was markedly accurate. The car dyno'd Yesterday at 214hp, with AFR dropping well below 10. The graph is horribly shaky which indicated terrible timing as well.



Very unimpressed. The good news is we have a great tuner ready to take up the challenge soon and I have positive hopes it will go well.

Now if John would just give me a refund...

[Nightbringer]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

I think three barf-faces are insufficient.

[Adeets]

Oh by the way please make sure to leave your experiences with visconti on his feedback thread located here:
Visconti feedback

[Don@Accelerated]

Originally Posted by Adeets

Sweet about time, so does this mean I can get a part refund on my vortech kit, because the tune he sent me was courptted and when I called him that night to take care of it he told me I was fucked and would have to wait a week. So I reached out to moto-mike and he did the entire tune for me, never once has a visconti tune been loaded onto my car, does that entail a partial refund?

Or how about the flex fuel package I asked for a refund before it was even released and you didn't respond to that email or support ticket, or how about now, now that same box with its brand new kit is still sitting in my garage unused, because when I opened it and saw those hoses, I was like FUCK THAT GARBAGE! Then left it in its box. Can I get a refund on that pos?


There are support tickets and emails for both of these cases, what I got back from visconti was his version of "your fucked."

Looks good!


Just for reference I bought the flex-fuel kit before my vortech arrived, so I didn't know yet that visconti is utter costumer service garbage.

What was your visual unease with the hoses in the flex fuel kit?

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by Don@Accelerated

What was your visual unease with the hoses in the flex fuel kit?

So you mean to tell me John has not told you about any of the big amount of complains there have been about the FF kit leaking fuel in the engine bay, especially considering you installed the FF kit on the car that burned to the ground and might have been involved in the initial design of the kit??...


WOW....

[Frs300]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

So you mean to tell me John has not told you about any of the big amount of complains there have been about the FF kit leaking fuel in the engine bay, especially considering you installed the FF kit on the car that burned to the ground and might have been involved in the initial design of the kit??...


WOW....

maybe john communicates with don like he does with customers

[Adeets]

Originally Posted by Don@Accelerated

What was your visual unease with the hoses in the flex fuel kit?

My unease was how thin the hoses looked, I had my foresters fuel system apart prolly 6 months ago, the hoses were just to thin, later like 15 days ish is when I saw moto-mike and he was the one who warned me about the fitment ussues with the ID...

Come on don didn't you install one of these kits in a black 86? I figured you would have thrown the red flag about the lose hose connection.

[Don@Accelerated]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

So you mean to tell me John has not told you about any of the big amount of complains there have been about the FF kit leaking fuel in the engine bay, especially considering you installed the FF kit on the car that burned to the ground and might have been involved in the initial design of the kit??...


WOW....

I'm not sure you even understand what your talking about. The initial 8mm -5/16 hose issue was solved w/ an 8mm Compression Ferrule Fitting. They don't leak or your doing something quite wrong.

[Don@Accelerated]

Originally Posted by Adeets

My unease was how thin the hoses looked, I had my foresters fuel system apart prolly 6 months ago, the hoses were just to thin, later like 15 days ish is when I saw moto-mike and he was the one who warned me about the fitment ussues with the ID...

Come on don didn't you install one of these kits in a black 86? I figured you would have thrown the red flag about the lose hose connection.

The hoses are rated with a 350+ maximum pressure rating. Your not going to generate enough pressure for them. Consider that normal EFI Gates hose is only good to 225psi. The wall thickness has little bearing on overall strength.

I don't know how moto Mike is.

[Adeets]

Originally Posted by Don@Accelerated

The hoses are rated with a 350+ maximum pressure rating. Your not going to generate enough pressure for them. Consider that normal EFI Gates hose is only good to 225psi. The wall thickness has little bearing on overall strength.

I don't know how moto Mike is.

Thick/thin doesn't have to do with pressure it's the ratio between ID/OD (the meat) and the hoses I looked at in that flex-fuel kit seemed off since I've felt with alot of Subaru fuel systems. That was the flag for me before I even knew that the ID was wrong.