WORKS Stage 2 Turbo Kit - Now CARB Compliant/SMOG Legal

[Bekker]

Was looking at the GReddy kit, but after doing some research on this kit, I'm liking the idea of the WORKS stage 1 more and more. "Simple" design means I can install it myself, and an included tune means I don't have to pay someone 1k+ for ECUtek tuning. A couple questions regarding the kit I have.

1 - Useability w/ catless headers and the included tune. Would I need to get an adjusted tune to use with catless headers?

2 - Blow off valve. Is there a reason to have/not have one? Any benefits one way or the other?

3 - Compatability with 2017 BRZ? I could care less about actual CARB compliance as my car registered in TX. The included tune + ease of install is the biggest reason I'm looking at the stage 1.

4 - Where to buy stage 1? I normally get my parts for my BRZ from speedfactory (I know they can be a bit overpriced, but military discount on some parts + everything on one site. convenience is nice.) I live in NorCal about 2 hours from Sonoma raceway, I wouldn't be opposed to driving to WORKS and actually just buying a kit to take home lol.

5 - Compatability with GrimmSpeed intake. I would like to think as long as the intake tubes lineup with the Grimmspeed intake box, that I would have to put the hideous stock airbox back on. Any thoughts or experience with this?

@WORKS

Thanks in advance!

[WORKS]

Originally Posted by Bekker

Was looking at the GReddy kit, but after doing some research on this kit, I'm liking the idea of the WORKS stage 1 more and more. "Simple" design means I can install it myself, and an included tune means I don't have to pay someone 1k+ for ECUtek tuning. A couple questions regarding the kit I have.

1 - Useability w/ catless headers and the included tune. Would I need to get an adjusted tune to use with catless headers?

2 - Blow off valve. Is there a reason to have/not have one? Any benefits one way or the other?

3 - Compatability with 2017 BRZ? I could care less about actual CARB compliance as my car registered in TX. The included tune + ease of install is the biggest reason I'm looking at the stage 1.

4 - Where to buy stage 1? I normally get my parts for my BRZ from speedfactory (I know they can be a bit overpriced, but military discount on some parts + everything on one site. convenience is nice.) I live in NorCal about 2 hours from Sonoma raceway, I wouldn't be opposed to driving to WORKS and actually just buying a kit to take home lol.

5 - Compatability with GrimmSpeed intake. I would like to think as long as the intake tubes lineup with the Grimmspeed intake box, that I would have to put the hideous stock airbox back on. Any thoughts or experience with this?

@WORKS

Thanks in advance!

Hey there,

1. Yes, you would typically need an adjusted tune for catless headers in any configuration.

2. Since the 86 utilizes a MAF and the blow-off valve releases metered air into the atmosphere, you could run rich during tip-in. This usually isn't an issue but it is not ideal since a recirculation or bypass valve will keep all of the measured air contained in the system.

3. Only the Stage 1 "Tuner Kit" is compatible with the 2017+ BRZ, it does not include an ECU calibration and is not CARB legal at this time. We do offer calibrations for our "Tuner Kit" based on your needs.

The Stage 1 "CARB Kit" does include an ECU calibration and is CARB legal for the 2013-2016 FRS/BRZ.

4. We also offer a military discount and can directly help you with any questions that you may have along the way!

5. The Grimmspeed intake does not appear to be compatible with our turbo kits as it changes the location of the MAF outlet whereas the Mishimoto Intake retains the same location.

For more information call us at (707) 933-3893 or come by the shop and say hello!


Thank you,

WORKS Team

[Lonewolf]

Bump for newer members who live in states with tougher emissions

[airrick]

how much is it for an install of this? i live in sac. bout an hour away. thinking FI but turbo cause, turbo. another question, what Rpm does this turbo usually spool up?> and are they ball bearing or journal bearing?

[WORKS]

Originally Posted by airrick

how much is it for an install of this? i live in sac. bout an hour away. thinking FI but turbo cause, turbo. another question, what Rpm does this turbo usually spool up?> and are they ball bearing or journal bearing?

airrick,

Typically, we offer discounted installation rates of $999 (Stage 1) and $1499 (Stage 2) which includes a 5w-30 Eneos oil change and the coolant required for the intercooler. If there is enough interest, we would be happy to offer a Black Friday special on installation from thanksgiving till the end of the year if you mention this post/thread! $899 (Stage 1) and $1299 (stage 2)

The GT28 is a ball bearing turbo and is sized appropriately for the FA20. It starts to spool very early and hits full boost in the low to mid 3000's depending on gear, load, etc.

There are many benefits of a turbo versus a supercharger. One of the main ones being that there is virtually no added load on the engine during highway cruising! (Hooray for MPG's!)

- WORKS Team

[Irace86.2.0]

Probably the bigger benefit is hitting full boost by 3500 rpms and the potential for a flat torque curve. Most superchargers have a bypass valve like mine, so there is minimal load or resistance from the supercharger on the highway.

[WORKS]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Probably the bigger benefit is hitting full boost by 3500 rpms and the potential for a flat torque curve. Most superchargers have a bypass valve like mine, so there is minimal load or resistance from the supercharger on the highway.

We certainly don't mind the flat mid-range torque!
Boost may be limited while cruising, however the added parasitic load a belt driven unit can add is notable.
There are certainly benefits to both styles of forced induction. While we're a bunch of turbo nuts over here, the way the boost builds with a supercharger is very consistent and predictable!

- WORKS Team

[jRuN]

Do you guys have any alternative intake options rather than using the factory airbox? The factory one takes up so much room and is so clunky in the engine bay.. it would be nice to have shorter intake piping coming off the turbo and less clutter.

[WORKS]

Originally Posted by jRuN

Do you guys have any alternative intake options rather than using the factory airbox? The factory one takes up so much room and is so clunky in the engine bay.. it would be nice to have shorter intake piping coming off the turbo and less clutter.

Hey jRuN,

We have found that the factory airbox flows very well and there is no real need for an aftermaket unit. If you desire the sound and aesthetic appeal of an aftermarket intake, any unit that retains and mounts to the factory rubber intake boot will fit. The intake would have to be CARB exempt if you wish to pass smog with the setup. Please note that if there is a change in piping diameter or positioning of the MAF in the intake; a re-tune (or at least a health check on the dyno) will likely be required. If you wish to eliminate some of the piping coming off the turbo, additional hose will be required to reach the recirculating valve along with a re-tune. Making a change like this would affect smog exemption.

Due to the these complexities with tuning and retaining exemption, we prefer to retain the factory airbox and recommend our WORKS drop-in filter. We do not offer other intake options at this time.

Now, if you have a Tuner kit and live in a state where there are no emissions requirements (or if the vehicle is not registered for street use and is for track only), you have a lot more freedom in your intake options. We have had a few of our customers fabricate some awesome custom intakes, FMIC setups, etc.!

- WORKS Team

[Joyriding_86]

@WORKS

By any chance this kit work with OFT?

[Akinaspeedstar86]

Do you have any plans on getting 2017+ cars a carb compliant version? Thank you.

[WORKS]

We are actually 50% through the process with CARB right now!

[HachirocksU]

Works with TRD intake?

[WORKS]

It will not fit with the TRD intake as there is no way for us to utilize it as it goes straight to the throttle body.