200 miles too high?? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

mwy23 · 04-27-2013, 04:32 PM

Hi all,

Shopping for a BRZ, I came across one at a dealer, priced at $300 over invoice but it already has 200 miles on it. Not sure if that's a deal breaker or not... Anyone care to share their opinions? The dealer said the 200 miles were from a dealer trade, then traded back.

KSC · 04-27-2013, 04:34 PM

A lot of bad things, or should I say bad drivers, can happen to a car in 200 miles...

sbxjap · 04-27-2013, 05:11 PM

Plus over invoice? I dunno. They could try to say its a rare car and they sell well, but obviously that one hasn't being that many miles on it at a dealer

Khazzy · 04-27-2013, 05:59 PM

I wouldnt pay over 300 invoice for a car that has 200 miles on it already. I would wait for another one

KSC · 04-27-2013, 06:17 PM

It's 100% possible it was driven one time from one dealer to another by a totally responsible salesman, or 20 times by terrible test drivers. Problem is, you'll never know. I'd wait, even if it were $300 below invoice.

Foobar · 04-27-2013, 07:22 PM

As much as this car is in demand, I really doubt those are all test drive miles.

Most likely a dealer trade.

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SubieNubie · 04-27-2013, 09:37 PM

With that kind of mileage it's only worth a used car price. Too many miles to justify a new car price.

ntron1 · 04-27-2013, 09:44 PM

Mine had 120 because they had to go out of state to dealer trade for the model and color I wanted. Google Maps said the dealer they got it from was 110 miles away so it was new when it left them and arrived at my dealer.

Kelbyat07 · 04-27-2013, 09:53 PM

When I ordered mine they asked how many miles would be ok for me to buy it. (They had to trade for another dealer) I told them less than 50 and got 20 miles $$$

AR35 · 04-28-2013, 01:04 AM

just depends on the risk you want to take. You will probably never know, or you could check car facts and look on google maps to see how far it is. If i was you i would wait, they are only getting cheaper.

mwy23 · 04-28-2013, 01:33 AM

Thanks for the input!! Decided to pass on the car as uncertainty will get the better of me.

AR35 · 04-28-2013, 01:36 AM

can never go wrong with waiting longer.

go2brz · 04-28-2013, 02:28 AM

It is the $300.00 over invoice that stands out the most. I would tell them I will pay MSRP only and if they won't do that then they don't really want to sell the car at fair value. If it was me, I would simply say that the miles on the car leave questions open, but if they will sell it at MSRP, I would buy the car. The warranty is very comprehensive and if the only problem could be if someone overrevved the car by a considerable amount during break in period you can see how high it was revved and how long. The dealer has the ability to plug the car in to their computer and tell you if the car has ever been over red line longer than it should have been, any misfires or other anomalies that might have happened. That will tell you how the car was driven during those extra miles on the car. If the dealer is willing to back the car then buy it for a fair price and be happy

Foobar · 04-28-2013, 08:38 AM

Just an FYI, invoice is the wholesale price dealers pay for the car before holdbacks and incentives.

MSRP is the sticker price.

Invoice is cheaper than MSRP so 300 over invoice is a damned good deal unless the OP meant 300 over MSRP.

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04-27-2013, 04:32 PM	#1
mwy23 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: BRZ, X5 Location: Fife, WA Posts: 34 Thanks: 12 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	200 miles too high?? Hi all, Shopping for a BRZ, I came across one at a dealer, priced at $300 over invoice but it already has 200 miles on it. Not sure if that's a deal breaker or not... Anyone care to share their opinions? The dealer said the 200 miles were from a dealer trade, then traded back. Last edited by mwy23; 04-27-2013 at 04:33 PM. Reason: Autocorrect fix

04-27-2013, 04:34 PM	#2
KSC Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: Ion Redline Location: NY Posts: 233 Thanks: 34 Thanked 120 Times in 62 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	A lot of bad things, or should I say bad drivers, can happen to a car in 200 miles... __________________ "Bullshit, asshole! No one likes the tuna here!"

04-27-2013, 06:17 PM	#5
KSC Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: Ion Redline Location: NY Posts: 233 Thanks: 34 Thanked 120 Times in 62 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's 100% possible it was driven one time from one dealer to another by a totally responsible salesman, or 20 times by terrible test drivers. Problem is, you'll never know. I'd wait, even if it were $300 below invoice. __________________ "Bullshit, asshole! No one likes the tuna here!"

04-27-2013, 09:53 PM	#9
Kelbyat07 Poor College Kid Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: ~.~ Location: Chicago Posts: 2,801 Thanks: 246 Thanked 2,182 Times in 1,249 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	When I ordered mine they asked how many miles would be ok for me to buy it. (They had to trade for another dealer) I told them less than 50 and got 20 miles $$$ __________________

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AR35 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: none Location: Savannah,GA Posts: 113 Thanks: 19 Thanked 21 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	just depends on the risk you want to take. You will probably never know, or you could check car facts and look on google maps to see how far it is. If i was you i would wait, they are only getting cheaper.

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go2brz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited in DGM Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 165 Thanks: 52 Thanked 73 Times in 40 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It is the $300.00 over invoice that stands out the most. I would tell them I will pay MSRP only and if they won't do that then they don't really want to sell the car at fair value. If it was me, I would simply say that the miles on the car leave questions open, but if they will sell it at MSRP, I would buy the car. The warranty is very comprehensive and if the only problem could be if someone overrevved the car by a considerable amount during break in period you can see how high it was revved and how long. The dealer has the ability to plug the car in to their computer and tell you if the car has ever been over red line longer than it should have been, any misfires or other anomalies that might have happened. That will tell you how the car was driven during those extra miles on the car. If the dealer is willing to back the car then buy it for a fair price and be happy

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