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Old 01-23-2017, 08:09 AM   #1
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SARD Surge Tank Kit w/ ITB from TAS 2017




Sard apparently is producing this intake surge tank kit. I can read 80% of the Japanese, but seems like it's using a kit from an AE111 Corolla for individual throttle body.

High response is the end goal with this kit. Obviously a tune is needed... expected to be available in March 2017.

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I bet will cost a fortune, would like to see a dyno chart thought
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I bet will cost a fortune, would like to see a dyno chart thought
The first thing people ask for is a dyno.... I really don't think this kit's purpose is for a big crazy powerband.

Price is 320,000 yen for full kit and 240,000 for something else... not sure what the katakana reads.
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I mean dyno graph, i dont care top end
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I mean dyno graph, i dont care top end
So how do you measure throttle response on a dyno?

I'm not sure a dyno will give you the answer you want, nor present the goal of this product accurately...
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So how do you measure throttle response on a dyno?

I'm not sure a dyno will give you the answer you want, nor present the goal of this product accurately...
No throttle response, but how to compare the dyno on stock vs this modification. How its the line before redline, and see the bump in power if any on mid range.
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CAD drawing from SARD's Facebook page...

https://www.facebook.com/SARD.Custom...type=3&theater
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here's a full translation of the japanese text:

86/BRZ ITB kit
  • bolts on to the FA20 engine!
  • available in full kit with intake manifold, surge tank, and ITB or throttle(for AE111)-less kit (???)
  • higher torque on entire range than stock and achieves high (throttle)response typical of ITBs *requires engine ECU tuning
  • 86/BRZ ITB Full Kit expected msrp 320,000 yen
  • 86/BRZ ITB (throttle-less)Kit expected msrp 240,000 yen (???)
expected availability March

now i have no idea what a throttle-less ITB kit is so your guess is as good as mine. @ichitaka05?

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now i have no idea what a throttle-less ITB kit is so your guess is as good as mine. @ichitaka05?
For ppl that want different TB. They can buy the kit without TB. Why ppl wanna do that? IDK

Well at least that's how I read it. I'll search it up lil bit more
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For ppl that want different TB. They can buy the kit without TB. Why ppl wanna do that? IDK

Well at least that's how I read it. I'll search it up lil bit more
so maybe it's for people who want to buy their own used AE111 TBs to use with the kit?
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so maybe it's for people who want to buy their own used AE111 TBs to use with the kit?
Looking up, but nothing solid info can be found atm... sorry can't be much help.
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Looking up, but nothing solid info can be found atm... sorry can't be much help.
all good ich, it's pretty exciting that a kit is coming out soon! would love to see this on celek's build, but i think he's already pretty far along in making his own custom built itbs.
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all good ich, it's pretty exciting that a kit is coming out soon! would love to see this on celek's build, but i think he's already pretty far along in making his own custom built itbs.
iirc Ken is testing out on US side.
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The first thing people ask for is a dyno....
Could someone get me a chocolate milkshake?
Could someone get me a dyno for this intake?
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