AT Hard Shifting issues Poll - Page 10 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

punisherfan · 04-12-2016, 07:50 PM

I have been out for a few spirited drives on twisty roads this week since the reflash, as well as daily commuting in manual mode only.

I gavent had one single incident of hard shift, and so I'm calling this fixed.

Thanks again to the OP for posting the TSB info.

86geek · 04-15-2016, 02:56 AM

My car is going in for service this weekend. I've already talked to service writer about this issue. I told him about the TSB and I was told I need to leave my car there all day for them to do it. I printed out the TSB. Hoping I'll get my car back at the end of the day on Saturday. If not hope they give me a loaner car. Highly unlikely but I can hope.

soulreapersteve · 04-15-2016, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 86geek

My car is going in for service this weekend. I've already talked to service writer about this issue. I told him about the TSB and I was told I need to leave my car there all day for them to do it. I printed out the TSB. Hoping I'll get my car back at the end of the day on Saturday. If not hope they give me a loaner car. Highly unlikely but I can hope.

All day?! I was told 2 hours but took them 30-45 minutes not including the "test drive" the mechanic has to do- which was about 5 minutes of puttering around. They must be crazy busy haha

Good luck and hope everything works out!

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 04-15-2016, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 86geek

My car is going in for service this weekend. I've already talked to service writer about this issue. I told him about the TSB and I was told I need to leave my car there all day for them to do it. I printed out the TSB. Hoping I'll get my car back at the end of the day on Saturday. If not hope they give me a loaner car. Highly unlikely but I can hope.

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Originally Posted by soulreapersteve

All day?! I was told 2 hours but took them 30-45 minutes not including the "test drive" the mechanic has to do- which was about 5 minutes of puttering around. They must be crazy busy haha

Good luck and hope everything works out!

Yea that's weirdly long to get it done, I'm assuming other maintenance is being performed so that's acceptable. It's pretty awesome how we got this taken care of and caused the creation of a
TSB

86geek · 04-15-2016, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

Yea that's weirdly long to get it done, I'm assuming other maintenance is being performed so that's acceptable. It's pretty awesome how we got this taken care of and caused the creation of a
TSB

Yup, my car has other maintenance to be done. Plus the dealership I'm going to is crazy ass busy on the weekends. Thanks to you & others for posting this thread.

Cole · 04-15-2016, 10:10 AM

Just to check in again, car is still a-ok.

Any Canadians in this situation who are being given a hard time about getting the reflash done, please, please, please call Toyota Corporate and raise hell about it. Don't do what I did with trying to fight with the dealer for almost a year. Go straight to corporate and open a case. Also, if you're "heavily modified, which is the root of the problem"like they tried to tell me, make a point to say that it's a software issue. Don't just roll over and take it.

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 04-15-2016, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole

Just to check in again, car is still a-ok.

Any Canadians in this situation who are being given a hard time about getting the reflash done, please, please, please call Toyota Corporate and raise hell about it. Don't do what I did with trying to fight with the dealer for almost a year. Go straight to corporate and open a case. Also, if you're "heavily modified, which is the root of the problem"like they tried to tell me, make a point to say that it's a software issue. Don't just roll over and take it.

What's shitty is the fact that we now that have around 13 confirmed cases where this issue has occured for the most part outside of the vin range, it's about time that the fix is extended to all 2015-2016 cars

DashRipRock · 04-15-2016, 01:06 PM

The dealership in Oakville did it for me first time I asked. No issues at all.

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 04-15-2016, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DashRipRock

The dealership in Oakville did it for me first time I asked. No issues at all.

Yea but in Coles case, and what almost occurred in my case is that they refused to do the TCM reflash when the car is out of the VIN range. They make up some bullshit excuse like "how do we know the reflash won't damage the ecu", when it's quite obvious it's a simple tcm logic flash.

Cole · 04-15-2016, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

Yea but in Coles case, and what almost occurred in my case is that they refused to do the TCM reflash when the car is out of the VIN range. They make up some bullshit excuse like "how do we know the reflash won't damage the ecu", when it's quite obvious it's a simple tcm logic flash.

Not even that, my Vin was in the correct range, but they blamed it on everything from my header to my after market toe arms. I finally said fuck it, took almost everything off and went back to mostly stock and they finally caved. Even though I demonstrated it happening on a '16 that was bone stock on the lot, they still said " but your mods bro, fuck off"

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 04-15-2016, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole

Not even that, my Vin was in the correct range, but they blamed it on everything from my header to my after market toe arms. I finally said fuck it, took almost everything off and went back to mostly stock and they finally caved. Even though I demonstrated it happening on a '16 that was bone stock on the lot, they still said " but your mods bro, fuck off"

That's even more ridiculous, the toe arms are in no way connected to the transmission. I hope you fucked them over and got them in trouble with corporate as much as possible.

KalbiCool88 · 04-15-2016, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

Yea but in Coles case, and what almost occurred in my case is that they refused to do the TCM reflash when the car is out of the VIN range. They make up some bullshit excuse like "how do we know the reflash won't damage the ecu", when it's quite obvious it's a simple tcm logic flash.

Same with me. They were hesitant to do it and said that my original TCM flash cannot be recovered.

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Cole · 04-15-2016, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

That's even more ridiculous, the toe arms are in no way connected to the transmission. I hope you fucked them over and got them in trouble with corporate as much as possible.

I did my best. I've been so unimpressed with my local Toyota service department it's not even funny. From the tech telling me I'm not driving properly, to the service manager brushing me off as a kid, I can't wait until I'm out of free oil changes there so I can finally break off my relationship with them.

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 04-15-2016, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KalbiCool88

Same with me. They were hesitant to do it and said that my original TCM flash cannot be recovered.

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Cannot be recovered?! Its the same process as any other car similiar to the steps when you flash a tune from OFT except it takes about 5-10 minutes longer

View Poll Results: Do you have the described AT issues?
Yes, but I've ignored them	41	34.17%
Yes, TSB fixed it	14	11.67%
Yes, dealer fix did not help	12	10.00%
No everything is fine	53	44.17%
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04-12-2016, 07:50 PM	#127
punisherfan Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2015 Scion FR-S Location: Marietta GA Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have been out for a few spirited drives on twisty roads this week since the reflash, as well as daily commuting in manual mode only. I gavent had one single incident of hard shift, and so I'm calling this fixed. Thanks again to the OP for posting the TSB info.

04-15-2016, 10:10 AM	#132
Cole Not a troll Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: FR-S Location: Canada Posts: 5,104 Thanks: 8,237 Thanked 5,399 Times in 2,694 Posts Mentioned: 266 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	Just to check in again, car is still a-ok. Any Canadians in this situation who are being given a hard time about getting the reflash done, please, please, please call Toyota Corporate and raise hell about it. Don't do what I did with trying to fight with the dealer for almost a year. Go straight to corporate and open a case. Also, if you're "heavily modified, which is the root of the problem"like they tried to tell me, make a point to say that it's a software issue. Don't just roll over and take it.

04-15-2016, 01:06 PM	#134
DashRipRock Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2015 Scion FR-S-6AT Location: West GTA Posts: 30 Thanks: 9 Thanked 17 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The dealership in Oakville did it for me first time I asked. No issues at all.

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