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Old 10-15-2019, 04:54 PM   #1
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Cable chains?

What brand/model of cable chains do you like to throw in the trunk for that one time when you drive through a chain control zone and they are required?


Currently rolling on Michelin AS3+ and don't see enough snow to switch to snow tires.
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The onerous manual says never to use cables or chains for any reason.
Bloody death will be visited on cute fuzzy kittens in that event.
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I drive through snow for 3 months a year but if I ever had to go someplace that requires chains I ain't taking the FRS!

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What brand/model of cable chains do you like to throw in the trunk for that one time when you drive through a chain control zone and they are required?


Currently rolling on Michelin AS3+ and don't see enough snow to switch to snow tires.
Those crazy Stockton snow storms will get you everytime.
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Well you've had your fun, but you don't expect me to believe that residents of Portland, Oregon (where it mostly rains) put on snow tires just to drive down I5 to California....

Also, the manual actually says a SAE Class S traction devices is allowed. Translation, cable chains for a low clearance application. Just figured someone might have experience with one that didn't abuse the fender liner too much.
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Well you've had your fun, but you don't expect me to believe that residents of Portland, Oregon (where it mostly rains) put on snow tires just to drive down I5 to California....

Also, the manual actually says a SAE Class S traction devices is allowed. Translation, cable chains for a low clearance application. Just figured someone might have experience with one that didn't abuse the fender liner too much.
no such thing as snow tires. They are called winter tires for a reason. Unless it stays above 50 degrees all winter long then you might as well get tires that handle the cold better.

Where on earth are you going where you think chains are necessary? Off roading?
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Where on earth are you going where you think chains are necessary? Off roading?
There are sections of northern California that get crazy amounts of snow, and vehicles are not allowed to pass over the highways at times unless they have traction adding equipment with them. Not really the kind of place I'd bring my car regularly, but people do sometimes get stuck up there if there's a flash storm...


https://dot.ca.gov/travel/winter-driving-tips

"Always carry chains."


A sample of snow in the California Sierras...it's legit snow country...

https://www.sacbee.com/news/weather-...228078559.html
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no such thing as snow tires. They are called winter tires for a reason. Unless it stays above 50 degrees all winter long then you might as well get tires that handle the cold better.

Where on earth are you going where you think chains are necessary? Off roading?
Well, there is such a thing as ice/snow tires. It's just the general-purpose winter tire is likely more appropriate here.

Also, you seem to assume the OP is traveling on Earth.
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no such thing as snow tires. They are called winter tires for a reason. Unless it stays above 50 degrees all winter long then you might as well get tires that handle the cold better.
While the generic term " snow tire" was changed to " winter tire", snow tires still exist. They're just bound to a smaller certification of a tire itself. M&S for example is a certification that exists within an all-season tire line up.
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There are sections of northern California that get crazy amounts of snow, and vehicles are not allowed to pass over the highways at times unless they have traction adding equipment with them. Not really the kind of place I'd bring my car regularly, but people do sometimes get stuck up there if there's a flash storm...


https://dot.ca.gov/travel/winter-driving-tips

"Always carry chains."


A sample of snow in the California Sierras...it's legit snow country...

https://www.sacbee.com/news/weather-...228078559.html
Some of that seems like the kind of snow most people would just wait out. Or have a truck for.
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Some of that seems like the kind of snow most people would just wait out. Or have a truck for.
True, but if I was using my car for DD (which I do) and traveled that area with any sort of regularity, I'd certainly keep a set of cables in the car to help me get OUT of there during a storm, if nothing else. Plus as I said, if you get caught up there during a storm event and don't have the required gear, you get turned away.
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True, but if I was using my car for DD (which I do) and traveled that area with any sort of regularity, I'd certainly keep a set of cables in the car to help me get OUT of there during a storm, if nothing else. Plus as I said, if you get caught up there during a storm event and don't have the required gear, you get turned away.
Alternatively, winter tires are pretty good if a storm pops up on you right there and you need to get out. I wouldn't think you would be turned around back into the storm.

If you traveled that area with regularity in the winter, and there were regularly storms which require chains, I might suggest you purchased the wrong car.

Idk, I survived snow storms in NY and New England for many years without chains or even winter tires. And Vermont doesn't really plow sometimes.
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Alternatively, winter tires are pretty good if a storm pops up on you right there and you need to get out. I wouldn't think you would be turned around back into the storm.

If you traveled that area with regularity in the winter, and there were regularly storms which require chains, I might suggest you purchased the wrong car.

Idk, I survived snow storms in NY and New England for many years without chains or even winter tires. And Vermont doesn't really plow sometimes.

I think you're overlooking the fact that it's CalTrans that requires the chains. Not saying that a good set of studded winters wouldn't get you into or out of 95% of the places chains will..
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Well you've had your fun, but you don't expect me to believe that residents of Portland, Oregon (where it mostly rains) put on snow tires just to drive down I5 to California....

Also, the manual actually says a SAE Class S traction devices is allowed. Translation, cable chains for a low clearance application. Just figured someone might have experience with one that didn't abuse the fender liner too much.
I leave my summer tires on year round
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