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Old 12-11-2015, 02:44 PM   #15
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Every time I drive the S2k or Isf I basically forget that I have a FRS. Both cars are completely different, but make me feel the same in regards to the FRS.

I say the STI is a time bomb because they have ringland failures all the time.

You really think 450whp is that difficult to attain? I'm expecting it to be relatively simple with the proper turbo and fuel setup.
Anything can be done with the right amount of money.
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Old 12-11-2015, 02:53 PM   #16
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I dont own a boosted car, though I thoroughly enjoy my car (aside from the minor mechanicals *issues* with this 1st year model). If you dont even enjoy sitting in it anymore, sell it to someone who will. Get a car that you do enjoy, simple.
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Old 12-11-2015, 03:31 PM   #17
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I think you should boost it NA so you can trade it in.
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Old 12-11-2015, 03:47 PM   #18
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I say trade it in. Get into a BMW with a track pack or the 235i. If you are handy with tools then you can do the maintenance yourself. Or go full Merica and get a Mustang or Ford Focus RS.
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You should sell it. The FR-S is meant to be a fun car. The moment you don't feel like driving it anymore, it's not worth keeping. IMO it's only worth dropping all that money to make 450 whp if you love everything else about it. But doesn't sound like that's the case here, so probably better to cut your losses and start with a car you really like.
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Thanks for the opinions and info guys. Ive decided to keep it NA and try to have fun with the car at the track. I already have KW coils so I'll be ordering the wheels and tires tonight. Hopefully I can choose the other suspension parts quickly.
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Special thanks for your post. I've got a few other cars that make 650whp+ so I'm thinking my decision to search for cornering Gs should leave me a happy camper.

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Old 12-11-2015, 05:50 PM   #23
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I've been getting kinda bored with my FRS lately and have been contemplating why I even have the car. Don't get me wrong, I really like it. Only problem is that when I drive another car I don't really feel like getting back into it.

That said, I've put the money together and really don't know what to do with the car. I like the idea of going turbo and making 450whp but I'm yet to see any fast turbo FA20 FRS'. Going all out with the FA20 is relatively cheap, but the car could be much faster spending the 15k on a Honda/Toyota motor.

Trading the car in is a bit sticky because I feel like the 30-40k range of cars is horrible. Within the range the STI is my favorite, but that thing is a ticking time bomb.

So I'm pretty much here trying to find out what you turbo guys feel about your cars. You guys think it's worth it to spend 15-20k over the span of a year trying to make my FRS something I'm looking for, or should I just give up boost dreams ans build an N/A time attack car?


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You're all over the damn place man. 450WHP or even CRANK HP is going to be a nightmare and way too expensive to even FATHOM. 12.5:1 compression with boost can be achievable, but it's going to be expensive, and in most cases unreliable. These cars are great N/A cars. High compression is great for natural aspiration, low compression is great to boost. If you want to boost, either purchase a FA20T and swap it or just do as you said and purchase another vehicle. You'd be a lot less in the hole financially.

But as I said.... Figure out what you exactly want to do and then start choosing financially.
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Special thanks for your post. I've got a few other cars that make 650whp+ so I'm thinking my decision to search for cornering Gs should leave me a happy camper.
Glad it helped before I deleted it, I realized that I kind of went off and was ranting and not from experience, there's enough internet benchracing out there.

I still think you should take the time and go on a few test drives of alternative cars, it'd be much easier to get a Corvette to do what you want than an 86. And at the very least help you gain some perspective on what actually makes you happiest.

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These cars are great N/A cars. High compression is great for natural aspiration, low compression is great to boost. If you want to boost, either purchase a FA20T and swap it or just do as you said and purchase another vehicle. You'd be a lot less in the hole financially.
I haven't seen an 86 blow up on a conservative FI kit, namely the CARB legal ones. FA20 seems to take to <10 psi like a fish to water on stock internals and ~240 whp (est ~300 crank hp) in a 2,800 lb car is no slouch.

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Thanks for the opinions and info guys. Ive decided to keep it NA and try to have fun with the car at the track. I already have KW coils so I'll be ordering the wheels and tires tonight. Hopefully I can choose the other suspension parts quickly.
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Special thanks for your post. I've got a few other cars that make 650whp+ so I'm thinking my decision to search for cornering Gs should leave me a happy camper.

Thanks again everyone.
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Honestly I came away a bit confused about your objective. I can say that if I merge the 2 posts together then the best advice would be to call up the guys at Element Tuning and see if they might want to sell their time attack car.
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As of now thats the plan.
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Honestly I came away a bit confused about your objective. I can say that if I merge the 2 posts together then the best advice would be to call up the guys at Element Tuning and see if they might want to sell their time attack car.
Objective is to make the car "fun" again. I've been getting bored with it and wanted to know the community's opinion on whether it makes sense to turbo the car in attempt to make good power. General vibe that I came away with is that its not the best idea to try an make a FA20 a highway performer. I came to my senses and agreed when multiple people reminded me that spending 20k to make 600whp is pointless when my ISF makes more power and is faster for a fraction of the price.

So.... I decided that full suspension mods accompanied by full bolt-ons is going to be the best route to take.
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