(Yet another) quick UEL header question. - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Guru Woodman · 03-27-2019, 07:50 AM

I am running a Openflash programmer (stage 1) and now would like to take it a step further.
So I am looking into a UEL and being offered 3 options:

Blox Racing UEL
Hooker UEL
Borla UEL

All comparatively priced. I am not sure which one to prefer. Sound and build quality is important. Some guidance is appreciated.

Summerwolf · 03-27-2019, 09:35 AM

Out of ONLY those three the borla is the only one with a proven, wide use track record. You can easily find information on its pros and cons and power gains.

Having said that, I would personally go for the hooker. Simply after following the development process thread and having ran some of their products in the past. Pros and cons are harder to find though as they were late to the game and get overshadowed quite a bit by other products.

Vital · 03-27-2019, 09:55 AM

You should probably look into Gruppe-S as well. That might be better than all your other options

Suzuyans · 03-27-2019, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vital

You should probably look into Gruppe-S as well. That might be better than all your other options

This.

Gruppe-S for me has the best value for your money. The welds are really really well done and I love it.

Twitchy313 · 03-27-2019, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Woodman

I am running a Openflash programmer (stage 1) and now would like to take it a step further.

So I am looking into a UEL and being offered 3 options:

Blox Racing UEL

Hooker UEL

Borla UEL

All comparatively priced. I am not sure which one to prefer. Sound and build quality is important. Some guidance is appreciated.

I would say Borla is the best one of your list, at least in my experience.

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Trueweltall · 03-27-2019, 11:19 AM

Happy Gruppe-S UEL owner here too, going on 2 years no issues.

finch1750 · 03-27-2019, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Woodman

I am running a Openflash programmer (stage 1) and now would like to take it a step further.
So I am looking into a UEL and being offered 3 options:

Blox Racing UEL
Hooker UEL
Borla UEL

All comparatively priced. I am not sure which one to prefer. Sound and build quality is important. Some guidance is appreciated.

Why those 3? And what are your end goals?

e_lunatic · 03-27-2019, 01:19 PM

can also vouch for Gruppe-S

PulsarBeeerz · 03-27-2019, 01:49 PM

Another plus one on the Gruppe-S. I loved mine before going to an EL.

Jyn · 03-27-2019, 01:57 PM

JDL usually does a tax return sale. I highly recommend the JDL product line.

Lantanafrs2 · 03-27-2019, 07:33 PM

Try getting a used pipe in the classifieds. I got a used ofh for 300. Excellent so far.

Detroiter · 03-28-2019, 10:16 AM

Anyone recommending the Borla UEL header obviously hasn't done any research into it. There are TONS of examples of shitty welds and terrible quality. For UEL the only brands worth spending your hard earned money on are JDL (top choice) and Tomei (also great). They are both extremely proven and well worth the money compared to other brands.

churchx · 03-28-2019, 12:36 PM

Imho also big reason for borla headers being relatively widespread is because those were among first, if not the first, aftermarket header offering for twins. Now, with much wider aftermarket choices i see little reason to get borla's, as there are imho better alternatives out there, both in top performance/quality niche and in budget one.

Guru Woodman · 04-20-2019, 10:43 PM

I found a great deal on a UEL Open Flash header to complement my Open flash tablet. It will be installed next week. Can't wait.

03-27-2019, 07:50 AM	#1
Guru Woodman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Drives: 2015 BRZ Sport Tech CWP Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 515 Thanks: 265 Thanked 636 Times in 269 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	(Yet another) quick UEL header question. I am running a Openflash programmer (stage 1) and now would like to take it a step further. So I am looking into a UEL and being offered 3 options: Blox Racing UEL Hooker UEL Borla UEL All comparatively priced. I am not sure which one to prefer. Sound and build quality is important. Some guidance is appreciated. __________________

03-27-2019, 01:57 PM	#10
Jyn Noob Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: FR-S Mammogram Location: Austin Posts: 1,585 Thanks: 574 Thanked 870 Times in 479 Posts Mentioned: 24 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	JDL usually does a tax return sale. I highly recommend the JDL product line. __________________ :@ChaoyD

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Detroiter Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: 2014 Scion FR-S Monogram Location: Michigan Posts: 215 Thanks: 149 Thanked 126 Times in 83 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Anyone recommending the Borla UEL header obviously hasn't done any research into it. There are TONS of examples of shitty welds and terrible quality. For UEL the only brands worth spending your hard earned money on are JDL (top choice) and Tomei (also great). They are both extremely proven and well worth the money compared to other brands. __________________ 2014 Scion FR-S Monogram Raven OFT Stage 2 UEL E85 \| Tomei UEL Headers \| Catless FP \| Greddy Revolution RS Catback \| HKS Air Filter \| Toyota Badge Swap

04-20-2019, 10:43 PM	#14
Guru Woodman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Drives: 2015 BRZ Sport Tech CWP Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 515 Thanks: 265 Thanked 636 Times in 269 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I found a great deal on a UEL Open Flash header to complement my Open flash tablet. It will be installed next week. Can't wait. __________________

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Vital Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Drives: 2015 BRZ Location: Texas Posts: 692 Thanks: 213 Thanked 336 Times in 254 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You should probably look into Gruppe-S as well. That might be better than all your other options

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churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,333 Thanks: 696 Thanked 2,085 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Imho also big reason for borla headers being relatively widespread is because those were among first, if not the first, aftermarket header offering for twins. Now, with much wider aftermarket choices i see little reason to get borla's, as there are imho better alternatives out there, both in top performance/quality niche and in budget one.

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