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Old 09-11-2014, 11:39 AM   #43
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You're right.

I say only better cars will come. Technology moves forward. But I always will love my FRS for it being the game changer for today's market. Been quite some time since we've had anything like it. $25k, lightweight, RWD, 2+2, peppy enough, and GORGEOUS!

All in all, it all comes down to how anybody can make anything competitive. It's all setup and the madman behind the wheel. But I tend to agree that the FRS happens to be phenomenally setup from factory. Now building from that will only turn this car into a monster being able to slay Goliaths. I wouldn't own one if I didn't think so. AE86.

Would be cool to see some form of this released...




I actually want this $25k RWD sports coupe market to explode. It will only give me more variety
What is that? I want 9 of them
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:25 PM   #44
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Always appreciated the Miata, always wanted a car like the Miata, just never wanted the Miata and a big reason had to do with looks and as the years progressed the looks just worsened. I did get a chance to own my like-a-miata with the S2000 but unlike like the original Miata, the S2k was too expensive, too powerful, too heavy. I wanted to have fun at 40mph, not 100mph if you catch my drift (pun intended).

Well this new Miata, has the looks, the sexy suspension design, the low weight and a decent engine and most likely the right price point. IMHO, the ND is what the damn S2000 should have been and never was. So to me, this is a giant leap in the right direction not just for Mazda and the Miata but for this type of car in general.

The KIA GT Stinger has potential but I doubt it will check all my boxes: weight/price/suspension design.
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Old 09-12-2014, 01:47 AM   #45
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Miata specs reportedly leaked.


http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...ly-leaked.html
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Old 09-12-2014, 06:13 AM   #46
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More miata pics and light review:

http://carpriest.com/2014/09/10/new-mazda-mx-5-finally/

I still can't see myself driving one, but to each their own. This would def be a good challenge against the FRS/BRZ due to its power/weight ratio.
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Old 09-12-2014, 08:06 PM   #47
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I find it very difficult to believe that 1. that this would have only 128 hp and 2. that they would give it a 1.5L engine without a turbo.

If that is true, I expect an optional turbo.
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I find it very difficult to believe that 1. that this would have only 128 hp and 2. that they would give it a 1.5L engine without a turbo.

If that is true, I expect an optional turbo.


I know its hard to believe as you guys have off shore oil drilling just a days drive away but you have to consider CAFE standards. 50mpg Miata could possible mean the return of the RX-7/9.
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Old 09-12-2014, 08:33 PM   #49
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2200 pounds and 130hp is still faster than the average car off the lot, iirc. Would sell for just north of 20g if this is the case.
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I hope that news is wrong. But high speeds has never been the point of a Miata. This also leaves room for better engine refresh.
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From what I saw, it was supposed to be closer to 190 hp which would make sense with the sky active tech. Going to be a great car to drive either way! If it does end up with 190, it will undoubtedly outperform the twins in damn near every way. That being said, it would still be a convertible and I'm not a fan of verts in the slightest.
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I know its hard to believe as you guys have off shore oil drilling just a days drive away but you have to consider CAFE standards. 50mpg Miata could possible mean the return of the RX-7/9.

THIS!
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Old 09-12-2014, 10:18 PM   #53
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I find it very difficult to believe that 1. that this would have only 128 hp and 2. that they would give it a 1.5L engine without a turbo.

If that is true, I expect an optional turbo.
These specs aren't for the US market. The Miata has always come with a choice of two engines in other markets. The US will probably get the 2.0 L version of the same engine, making somewhere between 170-180 hp.
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These specs aren't for the US market. The Miata has always come with a choice of two engines in other markets. The US will probably get the 2.0 L version of the same engine, making somewhere between 170-180 hp.
This. There has been other "leaked" info that stated Mazda knows the US market demands more power and the hp would be in the 180hp+ range.

Let's be honest. If Mazda released the new MX-5 with an engine that made under 150hp, they would get pretty trashed by every review that said the car was underpowered.
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If the new MX-5 comes with the present 2.0L Skyactive engine which makes 155HP and 154FT/LB TQ and weighs the projected 2260LBs it would still be pretty potent and would likely be the equal of the twins on the track, 0-60 and 1/4 mile. I fully expect 170+ NA power.
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Tops it is going to be 175 hp...on the low end it will have at least 160 hp....

Who knows though, Mazda sure enjoys being a co**tease
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