Harrop TVS86 Owners Thread

[Irace86]

Originally Posted by johan

A tune from Harrop for non-US fuels would still be useful as a starting point for MAF scaling and cam angles. The MAF scaling is particularly important since the kit replaces the MAF housing.

@HarropOz is there a way for end users to get a base cal from you for ECUTek? Knowing that it won't be usable out of the box, but still important as inspiration for a tune.

I ordered my kit from Neal on the 19th, and waiting patiently for delivery (honestly, I am), but trying to work out the details regarding tune. I will be doing install myself, my 2017 BRZ is already tuned on ECUTek, and I will need to be able to fire the car up and drive it for a couple hours to get to my buddies dyno so we can properly tune it.

Having something to go off of for the MAF will be paramount to the success of my install. Cruising down the freeway for two hours in limp mode is unappealing.

They already have a US spec tune. It's just with CARB getting tested. Doubt they will release it before everthing gets approved, and they might not release theirs like Edelbrock did. With that said, could the Edlebrock tune work as a get-you-down-the-road tune?

[johan]

Originally Posted by Irace86

They already have a US spec tune. It's just with CARB getting tested. Doubt they will release it before everthing gets approved, and they might not release theirs like Edelbrock did. With that said, could the Edlebrock tune work as a get-you-down-the-road tune?

Thanks. Kyle actually mentioned the same thing in his build thread - about using the Edelbrock tune. I guess I'll see how things play out. Even if Harrop isn't willing to release the tune - if I can just get the correct MAF calibration, that would be amazing.

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by johan

Thanks. Kyle actually mentioned the same thing in his build thread - about using the Edelbrock tune. I guess I'll see how things play out. Even if Harrop isn't willing to release the tune - if I can just get the correct MAF calibration, that would be amazing.

Just run the tune in closed loop until you get to the dyno. Will be fine to drive and won't take long to get the MAF right on the dyno. If in doubt, just bump the stock scale up a bit to be on the safe side. Log the trims a bit at idle and see where it's sitting.

Be interesting to see a MY17 FI tune, the WOT fueling control is different to previous ROMs.

[johan]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

Just run the tune in closed loop until you get to the dyno. Will be fine to drive and won't take long to get the MAF right on the dyno. If in doubt, just bump the stock scale up a bit to be on the safe side. Log the trims a bit at idle and see where it's sitting.

Be interesting to see a MY17 FI tune, the WOT fueling control is different to previous ROMs.

Yes, the fueling is different - it threw us off at first when we started tuning my car. It's more Toyota-esque and less Subaru-esque.

[The Racers Line]

Originally Posted by johan

Yes, the fueling is different - it threw us off at first when we started tuning my car. It's more Toyota-esque and less Subaru-esque.

Just saw your email. I've already worked with Delicious to create a Harrop specific tune. I'll talk to Zach and see if we can get you a start up map.

[johan]

Originally Posted by The Racers Line

Just saw your email. I've already worked with Delicious to create a Harrop specific tune. I'll talk to Zach and see if we can get you a start up map.

Awesome thanks!

It's a 2017 Automatic

[gtengr]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

Be interesting to see a MY17 FI tune, the WOT fueling control is different to previous ROMs.

Originally Posted by johan

Yes, the fueling is different - it threw us off at first when we started tuning my car. It's more Toyota-esque and less Subaru-esque.

Is that a pro or con?

[HarropOz]

Originally Posted by johan

A tune from Harrop for non-US fuels would still be useful as a starting point for MAF scaling and cam angles. The MAF scaling is particularly important since the kit replaces the MAF housing.

@HarropOz is there a way for end users to get a base cal from you for ECUTek? Knowing that it won't be usable out of the box, but still important as inspiration for a tune.

I ordered my kit from Neal on the 19th, and waiting patiently for delivery (honestly, I am), but trying to work out the details regarding tune. I will be doing install myself, my 2017 BRZ is already tuned on ECUTek, and I will need to be able to fire the car up and drive it for a couple hours to get to my buddies dyno so we can properly tune it.

Having something to go off of for the MAF will be paramount to the success of my install. Cruising down the freeway for two hours in limp mode is unappealing.

Let me get back to you on that one Johan, perhaps flick us an email at sales@harrop.com.au

[johan]

Originally Posted by HarropOz

Let me get back to you on that one Johan, perhaps flick us an email at sales@harrop.com.au

Email sent, thanks for the response.

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by The Racers Line

Just saw your email. I've already worked with Delicious to create a Harrop specific tune. I'll talk to Zach and see if we can get you a start up map.

It can be done. With ease. :-)

-Zach
Delicious Tuning

[Bfranklyn86]

Originally Posted by HarropOz

Ok Guys...

Minimumn Pulley Size is 65mm - Requiring E85 to avoid Knock. should see 17-18PSI

Our car is running the 2.1l HKS Stroker Kit, and the 65mm Pulley, Plus some new enhancements making 315KW At The Hubs. Thats 422HP, and then to convert that to Engine HP, which you americans love.... factoring in a rough guess at 20% Drive Train loss thats 506HP at the Engine.

Hows that sound????

We run this on our Track Car, with no Issues with IAT, Please see the below chart with our track data from our MOTEC.

Thanks for that info @HarropOz

Could you elaborate on how you took the power output from 364whp (e85) when you initially put the stroker kit in, to to the 422whp quoted here. That's a pretty sizeable increase for a few tweaks!

I'm also interested to know what proportion of your customers go for the smaller 85mm pulley on stock internals and 98oct. Is it a rarity, or fairly common?

Many thanks.

[Irace86]

Any CARB updates?


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[G-Unit86]

Hi guys i'm looking to buy a SC this spring for my BRZ and I've narrowed it down to an Bedrock or Harrop. I really like the packaging of the Harrop, and leaning that way, but i have 2 questions.

1st: @HarropOz, looking at your tack data do you know what you ROA was, and how does that compare to a stock pulley setup?


2nd;
Also has any one ran this kit with an aftermarket CAI, I currently have a Perrin Intake on my car, so I no longer have the stock air box in the car. I would have to dig it out of my parents basement back in Canada. I'm currently living in Michigan so not to much of a heart ache.

Thanks

[johan]

Originally Posted by G-Unit86

Hi guys i'm looking to buy a SC this spring for my BRZ and I've narrowed it down to an Bedrock or Harrop. I really like the packaging of the Harrop, and leaning that way, but i have 2 questions.

1st: @HarropOz, looking at your tack data do you know what you ROA was, and how does that compare to a stock pulley setup?


2nd;
Also has any one ran this kit with an aftermarket CAI, I currently have a Perrin Intake on my car, so I no longer have the stock air box in the car. I would have to dig it out of my parents basement back in Canada. I'm currently living in Michigan so not to much of a heart ache.

Thanks

re: intake

I've wondered the same myself, eyeballing it from pictures - it looks like there's a -slight- possibility you could make it work if you modified a silicone coupler to fit.