Harrop TVS86 Owners Thread

[gatorac]

So from that log it looks like they saw 152-161 IAT. I didn't see any record on there of the outdoor ambient temps.

Oil temps are crazy low for on track. I believe the factory sensor is measuring oil temps post cooler. At least it seems that way on my car.

[kuczynskika]

Originally Posted by O86O86

The Harrop guys seem to take their cars to the track as much as they can. I saw the 86 in action at the Geelong revival last year and it seem to run without any issues.

Bad news my install has been delayed due to a shortage of kits

Right there with you buddy...

[keen as]

Originally Posted by gatorac

So from that log it looks like they saw 152-161 IAT. I didn't see any record on there of the outdoor ambient temps.

Oil temps are crazy low for on track. I believe the factory sensor is measuring oil temps post cooler. At least it seems that way on my car.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=206

[Bfranklyn86]

I've been up and running with this kit for a week or so now. Stock 95ml pulley, stock exhaust. Extreme HD clutch.
My initial impression is it's amazing and worth every penny. There is power to spare absolutely everywhere.

But I havnt driven an FI 86/brz before so it was always going to feel fast. I'm still surprised though. In terms of pure acceleration it (subjectively) feels at least as fast as the Cayman R I've driven. (But I'm biased I know).

Next mods? Probably grippier tyres and a set of brake pads. After that..... The shop that tuned and fitted it (Abbey Motorsport) is going to be trialing the ACE 4-1 anaconda soon on their car - if there were to be decent gains at the top end I'd consider it in combo with a high flow cat. Or I may just leave it completely alone (if the Mrs has anything to do with it)

Only slight disappointments...... Slightly lower than expected dyno (just under 240 wheel on 98octane - but was 40 degrees in the dyno room - hottest day of the year in uk. Typical!). And the back window vibrates a bit when you put torque down at really low revs. Otherwise couldn't be happier so far.

I also seem to be getting better motorway mpg than before according to the car??!! - has anyone else experienced this or am I imagining it?

[Trefoil]

Originally Posted by Bfranklyn86

I also seem to be getting better motorway mpg than before according to the car??!! - has anyone else experienced this or am I imagining it?

With the larger 700 cc port injectors, stock pulley, PTuning header, full exhaust, and other little things with 93 AKI after the MotoEast tuning, the MPG on the highway is equal to the stock car. This is with grippy 245/17/45 tires. The rattling is likely the back splash panel where the rear brake light sits. Definitely had it rattling since installing an exhaust and header.

You might find a few fixes on the forums here for the rattle.

[HarropOz]

Hi Guys,

Sorry for the long delay between posts. Finally we've had a need to get the front bar off the race car, and i have been able to get some shots of the Harrop Oil Cooler Kit Installed. If you have any Questions please feel free to make contact and discuss with us at Harrop or chat with Neal at The RacersLine, or Mike at Moto-East.

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by Bfranklyn86

I've been up and running with this kit for a week or so now. Stock 95ml pulley, stock exhaust. Extreme HD clutch.
My initial impression is it's amazing and worth every penny. There is power to spare absolutely everywhere.

But I havnt driven an FI 86/brz before so it was always going to feel fast. I'm still surprised though. In terms of pure acceleration it (subjectively) feels at least as fast as the Cayman R I've driven. (But I'm biased I know).

Next mods? Probably grippier tyres and a set of brake pads. After that..... The shop that tuned and fitted it (Abbey Motorsport) is going to be trialing the ACE 4-1 anaconda soon on their car - if there were to be decent gains at the top end I'd consider it in combo with a high flow cat. Or I may just leave it completely alone (if the Mrs has anything to do with it)

Only slight disappointments...... Slightly lower than expected dyno (just under 240 wheel on 98octane - but was 40 degrees in the dyno room - hottest day of the year in uk. Typical!). And the back window vibrates a bit when you put torque down at really low revs. Otherwise couldn't be happier so far.

I also seem to be getting better motorway mpg than before according to the car??!! - has anyone else experienced this or am I imagining it?

Decent numbers for a hot day, but don't be so concerned over numbers. If the torque curve is as expected then it will naturally make more power on the road and I know Mark always leaves a margin of safety in the tunes too. Mileage also has some determination on power, some engines are looser than others and make more power. If it feels good then that is what matters.

As much as the Anaconda looks to be awesome, £1500 for a manifold.... no wonder your Mrs would be pissed

Originally Posted by HarropOz

If you have any Questions please feel free to make contact and discuss with us at Harrop or chat with Neal at The RacersLine, or Mike at Moto-East.

Don't forget us in the UK

[HarropOz]

Sorry about that!!

Abbey Motorsport in the UK!!!

[Bfranklyn86]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

As much as the Anaconda looks to be awesome, £1500 for a manifold.... no wonder your Mrs would be pissed

Does anyone know of a large bore 4-1 header that isn't so pricy?

[sam69]

Originally Posted by Bfranklyn86

Does anyone know of a large bore 4-1 header that isn't so pricy?

TOG make a good cheaper large bore 4 to 1 header but you'll need to mod the undertray to make it fit back on.

[Bfranklyn86]

Originally Posted by sam69

TOG make a good cheaper large bore 4 to 1 header but you'll need to mod the undertray to make it fit back on.

Having done a bit more research, it seems there are some potential pitfalls with cheap headers. I'll wait and see if there are decent gains with the ACE 4-1 on a harrop setup (decent being 25-35 when combined with a high flow cat) and maybe treat myself.

[sam69]

Originally Posted by Bfranklyn86

Having done a bit more research, it seems there are some potential pitfalls with cheap headers. I'll wait and see if there are decent gains with the ACE 4-1 on a harrop setup (decent being 25-35 when combined with a high flow cat) and maybe treat myself.

I have had these on for about 18 months or more with no issues no leaks at all and all flange faces are machined so they bolt up spot on.
I have not been back on the dyno since but did notice a considerable improvement in performance as I already had a header back exhaust

[HarropOz]

Originally Posted by Bfranklyn86

Having done a bit more research, it seems there are some potential pitfalls with cheap headers. I'll wait and see if there are decent gains with the ACE 4-1 on a harrop setup (decent being 25-35 when combined with a high flow cat) and maybe treat myself.

Dynoing the car this week with a few sneaky tricks for WTAC this year.

[Bfranklyn86]

Originally Posted by HarropOz

Dynoing the car this week with a few sneaky tricks for WTAC this year.

I'm guessing the new ACE crossfire 4-1 header (as you quoted my post!). Wouldn't be water/meth because you run on e86....? Or maybe found a way to drop pulley size?

I wish I had the sneaky tricks you've already got on your car - built engine and e85.