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Old 09-13-2013, 07:05 PM   #6189
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i also got FA20Club tune recently after having Visconti 1.10 and 1.14b4 previously.

without having datalog/fine tuning done for both tunes, the following is my observation:

- Visconti tunes seems to have more low end torque than FA20Club tune;
- Visconti tuned engine feels less smooth than FA20Club tune;
- Visconti tunes seems to have a lot more NVH level than FA20Club tune, the interior rattles quite a bit more;
- Visconti tunes seem to have more engine noise up to 4000rpm, including when the engine is warming up. at between 3000-4000rpm, it seems to have some ticking sound when the engine is under load. none of these happens with the FA20Club tune. this might be the reason why the Visconti tune feels like having more torque.

personally i wish to have the best of both worlds, but i guess if i want the best output i have to live with the extra NVH.

i think your curves seems to match how my butt dyno feels.
I agree with you. I took a chance and purchased the FA20club tune, and im not sold yet. Visconti's new 1.14 tune feels very strong. His best tune yet in my opinion. Yes, the power band of the fa20club tune is smoother, and there is less NVH. But my idle is very low and dips like stock. My CEL came on, and I have never thrown a CEL with any of Viscontis tunes, and everyone was talking so highly of fa20club on how much faster they respond, but it doesn't seem any different. I sent Tony a two logs and mentioned my crappy idle and CEL, and I haven't heard anything back. Andy however has been at least friendlier and responsive. But not sure I should have spent another $300...Don't get me wrong. They both feel good, and im not throwing either on under the bus, just what I have experienced with both so far.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:30 PM   #6190
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in the past when asked about this, visconti told people not to worry and that it was his "secret sauce"
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Jeez. That -5 knock correction is scary. Worst I've had on one of John's tunes was a -3 on pumpgas (with audible knocking). Flashed back to stock and was worse, turned out to be bad fuel. Honestly this engine is just going to knock to some extent on pumpgas regardless. I'm sure everyone's tunes show some knock correction after a reflash including on the stock tune (mine does for sure). It loves the ethanol. I've been rocking his E70 (1.14b4) tune and love it. Well, aside from the mpg. Occasional -1 knock correction but really solid.
Imagine that, now multiply it by the fact that it is a boosted car... Was I pissed off the day I clearly heard it knocking while cruising.... Mind you, this is very good FL 93 pumpgas.
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I agree with you. I took a chance and purchased the FA20club tune, and im not sold yet. Visconti's new 1.14 tune feels very strong. His best tune yet in my opinion. Yes, the power band of the fa20club tune is smoother, and there is less NVH. But my idle is very low and dips like stock. My CEL came on, and I have never thrown a CEL with any of Viscontis tunes, and everyone was talking so highly of fa20club on how much faster they respond, but it doesn't seem any different. I sent Tony a two logs and mentioned my crappy idle and CEL, and I haven't heard anything back. Andy however has been at least friendlier and responsive. But not sure I should have spent another $300...Don't get me wrong. They both feel good, and im not throwing either on under the bus, just what I have experienced with both so far.
My experiences so far exactly. I don't get stellar responses from FA20Club either which is fine. I imagine he has a large customer base now and matching workload. I was very surprised to get my last data log response back it was a classic "logs look fine". I replied that JV already has the copywrite on the catchphrase lol.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:15 PM   #6192
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ORLY??? How much are you willing to bet/loose? The graphs below do not seem slanderous at all at -5 knock. NOT saying everyone knocks or anything similar. But to say that there is NO detonation under his tunes, is a pretty big and inaccurate statement. There are cars out there that have experienced bad knock.








You doing your logs on a dirt road?!?!
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Who's there...

Visconti

Argh dammit nvm
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Old 09-14-2013, 05:47 AM   #6196
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i also got FA20Club tune recently after having Visconti 1.10 and 1.14b4 previously.

without having datalog/fine tuning done for both tunes, the following is my observation:

- Visconti tunes seems to have more low end torque than FA20Club tune;
- Visconti tuned engine feels less smooth than FA20Club tune;
- Visconti tunes seems to have a lot more NVH level than FA20Club tune, the interior rattles quite a bit more;
- Visconti tunes seem to have more engine noise up to 4000rpm, including when the engine is warming up. at between 3000-4000rpm, it seems to have some ticking sound when the engine is under load. none of these happens with the FA20Club tune. this might be the reason why the Visconti tune feels like having more torque.

personally i wish to have the best of both worlds, but i guess if i want the best output i have to live with the extra NVH.

i think your curves seems to match how my butt dyno feels.
So far I'm happy with Delicious Tuning. The power feels on par with Visconti, but all of the NVH is gone. Even with the rear diff and subframe bushings, cruising speeds are almost as quite as stock now. With Visconti's tune the noise was so bad I was considering removing the bushings. Turn around time on communication is typically two to three days and William sent me an adjusted tune after my first logs. There was some hesitation at tip in but the adjusted tune fixed that. The down side, I still don't know what racerom features are setup on the different maps despite asking three times.
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Old 09-14-2013, 11:09 AM   #6197
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So far I'm happy with Delicious Tuning. The power feels on par with Visconti, but all of the NVH is gone. Even with the rear diff and subframe bushings, cruising speeds are almost as quite as stock now. With Visconti's tune the noise was so bad I was considering removing the bushings. Turn around time on communication is typically two to three days and William sent me an adjusted tune after my first logs. There was some hesitation at tip in but the adjusted tune fixed that. The down side, I still don't know what racerom features are setup on the different maps despite asking three times.
Hi Calum,

I appreciate your honest review and yes it does take myself time to get back to all our customers (since I am the only one reviewing and editing the tunes). As for the RaceROM, I have been going back and forth on how to set this up but have come to find out most people either do not want it or want something completely custom. So for the time being I am offering custom requested setups for Flat Foot Shifting, Launch Control, Auto-Blip and switchable maps with respect to those features.

Send me how you would like to setup the RaceROM features and I can get that off to you.

Cheers,
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Hi Calum,

I appreciate your honest review and yes it does take myself time to get back to all our customers (since I am the only one reviewing and editing the tunes). As for the RaceROM, I have been going back and forth on how to set this up but have come to find out most people either do not want it or want something completely custom. So for the time being I am offering custom requested setups for Flat Foot Shifting, Launch Control, Auto-Blip and switchable maps with respect to those features.

Send me how you would like to setup the RaceROM features and I can get that off to you.

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Nice shameless plug.

This thread seemed like it was made for news for current customers so im tired of reading BS over and over about "this feels like" or "I think"
Thanks for posting up actual data
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I just got Visconti's latest tune (1.14b5) update. I'll hopefully flash it in today and compare that to William's. Until now the latest tune I had from Visconti was 1.14.

Edit: Um, I'll just let this speak for itself.

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bump for visibablity, I think people should be seeing just how bad the knock can be with a tune that's too aggressive.
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I just got Visconti's latest tune (1.14b5) update. I'll hopefully flash it in today and compare that to William's. Until now the latest tune I had from Visconti was 1.14.

Edit: Um, I'll just let this speak for itself.

can you help me understand what I an looking at here???

also which is which map?
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