87 and low octane gas

[alf]

Originally Posted by Mr.ac

Sounds like your better off buying a small tow trailer or extended hitch and a few jerry cans of your preferred gas.

By the way you sound, are you Canadian eh?

I do not speak French. Actually, I am grew up in Europe ...

[alf]

Originally Posted by humfrz

DANG, I reckon you plan on taking a few side trips -

that whole journey will be one huge side trip

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by alf

that whole journey will be one huge side trip

So, I'm interested in following your journey.

Where are you going to start from?


humfrz

[alf]

Originally Posted by humfrz

So, I'm interested in following your journey.

Where are you going to start from?

Thank you. The whole thing already started in my head, and after consulting with people who did similar I am more inclined than ever.


The only item on the check list I am really worrying about is how to get around the low octane fuel for 1000-2000 miles (perhaps less - I still need to check it). In fact, I have to find out that next.

Back to OP, I will run a tank of 87 and log data with OFT. I kinda hope, that measured driving style could limit knocking ... Maybe naive thinking.


Andy

[steve99]

Originally Posted by alf

Thank you. The whole thing already started in my head, and after consulting with people who did similar I am more inclined than ever.


The only item on the check list I am really worrying about is how to get around the low octane fuel for 1000-2000 miles (perhaps less - I still need to check it). In fact, I have to find out that next.

Back to OP, I will run a tank of 87 and log data with OFT. I kinda hope, that measured driving style could limit knocking ... Maybe naive thinking.


Andy

I could make up a tune for you will a lot less timing for runnig low octane fuel, but on 87 with a 12.5:1 compression you likely still going to get some knock but with a modded tune it will be less


Message me if your interested

[alf]

Originally Posted by steve99

I could make up a tune for you will a lot less timing for runnig low octane fuel, but on 87 with a 12.5:1 compression you likely still going to get some knock but with a modded tune it will be less

Message me if your interested

Thx. When I get to the point I am 100% committed, I will reach out to you.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by alf

Thank you. The whole thing already started in my head, and after consulting with people who did similar I am more inclined than ever.


The only item on the check list I am really worrying about is how to get around the low octane fuel for 1000-2000 miles (perhaps less - I still need to check it). In fact, I have to find out that next.

Back to OP, I will run a tank of 87 and log data with OFT. I kinda hope, that measured driving style could limit knocking ... Maybe naive thinking.


Andy

Here is a thought that might help a bit.

When I was traveling in Europe, while stationed in the Army, I could buy gas at the EES for $.23 per gallon. On the economy it was selling for $.67 per gallon. I was driving a VW bug. So, I borrowed two 20 liter poly-something containers, that my landlord used in his business to transport dry cleaning fluid. I positioned these containers in the front of my bug, hidden under an Army blanket. That about doubled the range of my car on relatively cheap gasoline, allowing me to make it to another military installation.

(please folks, no lectures on how dangerous that was - )


So, Andy, where in your head, did you start off from?

(London or Cape Town?)



humfrz

[jonboy99]

Originally Posted by alf

Thank you. The whole thing already started in my head, and after consulting with people who did similar I am more inclined than ever.


The only item on the check list I am really worrying about is how to get around the low octane fuel for 1000-2000 miles (perhaps less - I still need to check it). In fact, I have to find out that next.

Back to OP, I will run a tank of 87 and log data with OFT. I kinda hope, that measured driving style could limit knocking ... Maybe naive thinking.


Andy

OP, you gave your name on a public forum. Are you sure you wanted to reveal that detail yet?

Seriously, you allude to the lsd being helpful in avoiding getting stuck on this trip. How is that kind of terrain compatible with going easy on the car to try and avoid knock?

[Tcoat]

Not sure about the point of all the secrecy on the plans. I personally would throw my idea out there since there is bound to be somebody on here that has experience in the regions in question.
At this point it would appear that Alf could not have chosen a poorer vehicle to travel through the unknown even if he had tried to.

[radroach]

@alf If by "far off the map" you mean take your car places it shouldn't, I'd advise reconsider or change plans. I've taken my car off into the dirt briefly while visiting the canyons and the wear that I did to all my mounts/shocks/ etc wasn't worth it. Dragged the muffler through a bunch of ruts. It made it, but to what cost to my future driveability and my wallet to have to fix these things?

[solidONE]

If you must.. maybe trim 5* of timing globally by subtracting it from your base ignition timing map and see what happens? you'd be better off with that than running tables set for good fuel.

[alf]

Originally Posted by solidONE

If you must.. maybe trim 5* of timing globally by subtracting it from your base ignition timing map and see what happens? you'd be better off with that than running tables set for good fuel.

@steve99 offered to build a 87 map for me. I will run tests here at home to see what driving style works and what does not.


If there is a certain window of RPM/throttle where it works, I will stick to it. Also, I will carry octane boosters.



yes, I must.

[alf]

Originally Posted by radroach

@alf If by "far off the map" you mean take your car places it shouldn't, I'd advise reconsider or change plans. I've taken my car off into the dirt briefly while visiting the canyons and the wear that I did to all my mounts/shocks/ etc wasn't worth it. Dragged the muffler through a bunch of ruts. It made it, but to what cost to my future driveability and my wallet to have to fix these things?

I already went "for off the map" and yes, there is a wear and tear. I actually went on top of High Sierra with 8 inches deep ruts and other really one way no u turn possible bad spots in Cali as well as drove thru calf deep sand roads and my superb skills, maintaining momentum and being calm always saved me.

[alf]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Not sure about the point of all the secrecy on the plans. I personally would throw my idea out there since there is bound to be somebody on here that has experience in the regions in question.
At this point it would appear that Alf could not have chosen a poorer vehicle to travel through the unknown even if he had tried to.

I will surely reveal my plans in more detail, once I commit to the trip. This is just an early research.


And doing it in 86 is a point here.