hp, torque and "fun" - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

perryair · 01-22-2018, 12:31 PM

great little explainer video about horsepower and torque in layman's terms. essentially, when you're geared to extract power from the engine, you can enjoy it all - and when you handicap your high hp car with crappy gears for gas mileage or whatever purposes, your supposedly fun car feels like a corolla.

this is one reason why our little 200 hp, 156 ft/lb torque car feels so fun, cause its set up to make the absolute most of what it has unlike many other cars, which are geared for max efficiency instead of max fun.

its also why you have to wring the crap out of it to get to that fun.. but hey.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-MH4sf5xkY"]video[/ame]

Flash02 · 01-23-2018, 08:10 PM

From what I’ve read Subaru regeared the MY2017 BRZ. My 2017 seems to pull very well up to the beginning of the torque dip, then at about 4700 the power comes back. My 2002 264 AWHP WRX was a blast to drive, my BRZ is Way more fun.

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NCtoBRZ · 01-23-2018, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash02

From what I’ve read Subaru regeared the MY2017 BRZ. My 2017 seems to pull very well up to the beginning of the torque dip, then at about 4700 the power comes back. My 2002 264 AWHP WRX was a blast to drive, my BRZ is Way more fun.

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The final drive ratio was shortened for 2017 and the engine had a few more ponies, making it a little zippier than previous year models. I previously had a 2013 WRX hatch, and while it definitely pulled harder in a straight line... the BRZ is indeed more fun to drive.

reeves · 01-24-2018, 09:52 AM

That's why I eventually moved on from my turbo MR2.. 0-60 got boring after a while, I couldn't drive it in the 3-6K RPM range all the time like my BRZ. With a quality header, there's no torque dip to worry about either.

8RZ · 01-24-2018, 10:21 AM

Coming from Miatas with light weight, low power and short gear ratios, the BRZ feels right at home.

Flash02 · 01-25-2018, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by reeves

That's why I eventually moved on from my turbo MR2.. 0-60 got boring after a while, I couldn't drive it in the 3-6K RPM range all the time like my BRZ. With a quality header, there's no torque dip to worry about either.

Really, everything I’ve read says there is very little if any gains to our engines power with exhaust modifications. What header and what exhaust are you using?

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funwheeldrive · 01-25-2018, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash02

Really, everything I’ve read says there is very little if any gains to our engines power with exhaust modifications. What header and what exhaust are you using?

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The power isn't really increased much, but with a header/tune, it's easy to eliminate the stock torque dip making the powerband more linear. The manual MY17s with the revised engines don't have quite as much room for improvement IIRC thanks to the updates.

ls1ac · 01-25-2018, 07:32 PM

If you can not go fast go loud.

Loud seems faster and is more fun.

01-22-2018, 12:31 PM	#1
perryair junior mafia Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: ‘20 sti limited Location: music city, tn Posts: 243 Thanks: 94 Thanked 221 Times in 91 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	hp, torque and "fun" great little explainer video about horsepower and torque in layman's terms. essentially, when you're geared to extract power from the engine, you can enjoy it all - and when you handicap your high hp car with crappy gears for gas mileage or whatever purposes, your supposedly fun car feels like a corolla. this is one reason why our little 200 hp, 156 ft/lb torque car feels so fun, cause its set up to make the absolute most of what it has unlike many other cars, which are geared for max efficiency instead of max fun. its also why you have to wring the crap out of it to get to that fun.. but hey. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-MH4sf5xkY"]video[/ame] __________________ 20 sti limited \| 17 bmw m240i \| 16 scion im \|15 brz limited {prokit, 17x8 +35 rpf1, bfg comp 2 a/s, stg 2, jdl uel, voodoo knob} \| 05 honda civic \| 06 scion tc \| 95 mustang gt \| 89 chevy s-10 cameo Last edited by perryair; 01-22-2018 at 12:47 PM.

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Flash02 Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Drives: 2017 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Elizabeth City, NC Posts: 42 Thanks: 12 Thanked 19 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	From what I’ve read Subaru regeared the MY2017 BRZ. My 2017 seems to pull very well up to the beginning of the torque dip, then at about 4700 the power comes back. My 2002 264 AWHP WRX was a blast to drive, my BRZ is Way more fun. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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reeves Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: ATL, GA Posts: 1,021 Thanks: 289 Thanked 397 Times in 265 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That's why I eventually moved on from my turbo MR2.. 0-60 got boring after a while, I couldn't drive it in the 3-6K RPM range all the time like my BRZ. With a quality header, there's no torque dip to worry about either.

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