Anyone else a little excited for the HKS Turbo kit? - Page 7 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Raven86Project · 07-18-2018, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by weederr33

Still waiting to see more people field this kit....

Mine is coming by the end of the month

gtengr · 07-18-2018, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

My example wasn’t an absolute or an always statement.

Re-read the posts that I quoted. They were written as absolutes.

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

In fact, it would be odd of me to try to use an absolute to refute an absolute. Don’t you agree?

Grady acknowledged the effect of efficiency on IATs in his initial post. The only thing to add to that was turbo power consumption. To say "a larger turbo achieves lower IATs" simply isn't correct. It is actually going to be wrong most of the time because people are most likely going to pick the right turbo for their application on the first attempt. So, even if it wasn't a bad example, you were still making a point that no one was arguing.

Also, Grady's point was that no amount of efficiency change would allow for 6 psi to make 360 rwhp on 93 octane, and that is correct.

Irace86.2.0 · 07-18-2018, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gtengr

Re-read the posts that I quoted. They were written as absolutes.

Right. I already apologized for not making it clear or spelling out the implications. A larger turbo is a relative thing to say. Perhaps a smaller turbo would be optimum at a given psi and a larger wouldn't depending on a number of factors such as the point of maximum efficiency. I should have said a different sized turbo instead of larger, but again, the point was that 6psi is not always equal to 6psi, and the idea is that a different sized turbo could allow for improved efficiency, reduced temperatures, better flow and allow for more aggressive tuning (a different turbo, not necessarily a larger, but again, a larger is a good/common example). I don't get if you are refuting that or arguing the fine points because the bigger point is that a given psi is not inherently deterministic of power output.

That was my whole point. I was arguing against one of his points--not his conclusion. I'm done here.

Scracho · 07-24-2018, 06:03 PM

Updates?

Raven86Project · 07-30-2018, 03:32 PM

I just got mine! Ordered on April 26th.

stevo_12v · 08-17-2018, 10:15 AM

From local tuner's FB page where my car is at.
390ish rwhp @ 1.0 Bar

https://www.facebook.com/EvolutionRm...314?__tn__=C-R

johl · 08-17-2018, 07:52 PM

So it gained 60hp with more than double the original boost? Something is off here

johl · 10-13-2018, 06:48 AM

so are there any real world updates from people that have this kit?

Raven86Project · 10-25-2018, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by johl

so are there any real world updates from people that have this kit?

I'll get mine dynoed in the near future.

Northwest86 · 10-25-2018, 11:00 AM

Yea that shops Dyno numbers were waaaaaay off. No corrections were put on it at all. Temperature sensor for the dyno wasn't running. And they were on stock fuel on a 98 car. Even if you go by NSW Disney Dyno numbers 300-320hp is about the max you can get out of the stock fuel system. Which this car had. There is no way in hell they got those numbers on 6PSI. Let alone a stock system. The HKS system will perform exactly the same as any other Turbo application, give or take the usual 5% in efficiency gains or losses. Torque curves and boost response is the difference in kits that you see. It will however be fairly good in throttle response compared to most kits by the looks of it which will be its benefit over most kits.

wbradley · 10-25-2018, 11:20 AM

Looks really nice...!
If I were to do another one I'd want to try this package for sure. If you can run this car safely at 275-300 HP, you're laughing. Any more than that power and you are mostly just laying rubber, unless you have 11" rear wheels with huge fender flares. Then, keep boostin'

Why do all the normally yellow coloured plastic parts look purple?

johl · 12-27-2018, 11:52 PM

Mine is mostly installed and will be tuned next week.

Raven86Project · 12-28-2018, 12:03 AM

So you finally pulled the trigger! Congrats man!!! You're not going to regret it!

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Originally Posted by johl

Mine is mostly installed and will be tuned next week.

johl · 12-28-2018, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven86Project

So you finally pulled the trigger! Congrats man!!! You're not going to regret it!

Your build definitely helped my decision. Other than what you have posted there isn’t a lot of information out there.

I’ve had a baseline dyno run done and will post both the before and after when I get it back

07-24-2018, 06:03 PM	#88
Scracho Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: 2018 Subaru BRZ Location: Ancaster, Ont. Canada Posts: 377 Thanks: 207 Thanked 205 Times in 133 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Updates? __________________ On my fourth 86... and everything in between

07-30-2018, 03:32 PM	#89
Raven86Project JDM Spirit of the '90s Join Date: Dec 2016 Drives: 2015 FR-S Turbo Location: South Florida Posts: 304 Thanks: 321 Thanked 477 Times in 209 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just got mine! Ordered on April 26th. __________________ IG: raven86project Build Thread HERE Last edited by Raven86Project; 07-30-2018 at 04:01 PM.

08-17-2018, 07:52 PM	#91
johl Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Drives: toyota 86 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 165 Thanks: 56 Thanked 128 Times in 72 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So it gained 60hp with more than double the original boost? Something is off here __________________

10-13-2018, 06:48 AM	#92
johl Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Drives: toyota 86 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 165 Thanks: 56 Thanked 128 Times in 72 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	so are there any real world updates from people that have this kit? __________________

12-27-2018, 11:52 PM	#96
johl Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Drives: toyota 86 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 165 Thanks: 56 Thanked 128 Times in 72 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Mine is mostly installed and will be tuned next week. __________________

10-25-2018, 11:00 AM	#94
Northwest86 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Drives: Velocity Orange 86 GT Location: Australia Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 71 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yea that shops Dyno numbers were waaaaaay off. No corrections were put on it at all. Temperature sensor for the dyno wasn't running. And they were on stock fuel on a 98 car. Even if you go by NSW Disney Dyno numbers 300-320hp is about the max you can get out of the stock fuel system. Which this car had. There is no way in hell they got those numbers on 6PSI. Let alone a stock system. The HKS system will perform exactly the same as any other Turbo application, give or take the usual 5% in efficiency gains or losses. Torque curves and boost response is the difference in kits that you see. It will however be fairly good in throttle response compared to most kits by the looks of it which will be its benefit over most kits.

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