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Old 09-21-2018, 05:45 AM   #2801
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As a South African, I'm glad I'll be able to see these on the road. Low hopes on driving one some day though.

Also, reckon this means "drift mode" will require some pedal dance?
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50,000 pounds = 65,365.05 United States Dollar at the current exchange rate. A bit more than the $63K that I predicted a while back. Of course, this is still speculation but I knew anything that BMW had a hand in would be relatively expensive and even the Toyota reps have been calling it an "expensive" car.

Orders start in October so I would think that the wraps will come off it completely next month.
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50,000 pounds = 65,365.05 United States Dollar at the current exchange rate. A bit more than the $63K that I predicted a while back. Of course, this is still speculation but I knew anything that BMW had a hand in would be relatively expensive and even the Toyota reps have been calling it an "expensive" car.

Orders start in October so I would think that the wraps will come off it completely next month.
Speculation for sure. We will see when we see. At $65k they are in Cayman, LT1, GT350R, etc territory, and not competitively priced, so the buyers will likely be a super niche group.
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Speculation for sure. We will see when we see. At $65k they are in Cayman, LT1, GT350R, etc territory, and not competitively priced, so the buyers will likely be a super niche group.

As were the buyers of the last generation of Supra:

Base Price of Toyota Supra
Year Supra Supra Turbo
1993 $33,900 $39,900
1994 $35,800 $42,800
1995 $37,600 $47,500
1996 $38,600 $50,400

That 96 Turbo supra would cost $78,738.36 in 2017 dollars so from that point of view the $65K 2019 Supra turbo would be a bargain.

Hopefully, they will actually produce the turbo 4 at a more reasonable price. I think that it would be the one that would be more attractive to me as I like minimalist and somewhat raw sports cars.
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I dont think 65k is niche market anymore. There are plenty of high priced camaros, mustangs, and even corvette models running around. They sell without hassle.
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I dont think 65k is niche market anymore. There are plenty of high priced camaros, mustangs, and even corvette models running around. They sell without hassle.


The high priced domestics have 500-700 HP. Much easier to sell those than a <400hp sports car to your typical American customer that can afford that price range, the ones wearing socks inside sandals.
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The high priced domestics have 500-700 HP. Much easier to sell those than a <400hp sports car to your typical American customer that can afford that price range, the ones wearing socks inside sandals.
People dont have issues paying for toys. If people want this thing they'll buy it.
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As were the buyers of the last generation of Supra:

Base Price of Toyota Supra
Year Supra Supra Turbo
1993 $33,900 $39,900
1994 $35,800 $42,800
1995 $37,600 $47,500
1996 $38,600 $50,400

That 96 Turbo supra would cost $78,738.36 in 2017 dollars so from that point of view the $65K 2019 Supra turbo would be a bargain.

Hopefully, they will actually produce the turbo 4 at a more reasonable price. I think that it would be the one that would be more attractive to me as I like minimalist and somewhat raw sports cars.
I think that cars are cheaper now when compared to the 80's and 90's.
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As were the buyers of the last generation of Supra:

Base Price of Toyota Supra
Year Supra Supra Turbo
1993 $33,900 $39,900
1994 $35,800 $42,800
1995 $37,600 $47,500
1996 $38,600 $50,400

That 96 Turbo supra would cost $78,738.36 in 2017 dollars so from that point of view the $65K 2019 Supra turbo would be a bargain.

Hopefully, they will actually produce the turbo 4 at a more reasonable price. I think that it would be the one that would be more attractive to me as I like minimalist and somewhat raw sports cars.
The Supra ended production here in 1998, but like 2002 or 2003 in Japan. Cost was a big factor.

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I dont think 65k is niche market anymore. There are plenty of high priced camaros, mustangs, and even corvette models running around. They sell without hassle.
Like Yoshoobaroo, it isn't the price; it is the competition. A Cayman S starts at $67k. For the domestics, a base Corvette is $55k, and the GT350 and ZL1 are $62k. M3/M4 are in the 60's. Alfa 4c is $56k. Jaguar f-Type is $61k. I can keep going. Don't get me started on the lightly used market.

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The high priced domestics have 500-700 HP. Much easier to sell those than a <400hp sports car to your typical American customer that can afford that price range, the ones wearing socks inside sandals.
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As were the buyers of the last generation of Supra:

Base Price of Toyota Supra
Year Supra Supra Turbo
1993 $33,900 $39,900
1994 $35,800 $42,800
1995 $37,600 $47,500
1996 $38,600 $50,400

That 96 Turbo supra would cost $78,738.36 in 2017 dollars so from that point of view the $65K 2019 Supra turbo would be a bargain.
Just to beat home this point, in 1995 the price of a C4 Corvette was $37k with 300hp/340tq at 3200lbs. In 1997, a C5 Corvette was $37k with 345hp at 3200lbs. So similar power and weight, but more expensive than a Corvette. Now a base Corvette has 455hp/460tq at 3400lbs at a cost of $55k.

Following that trend, a new Supra would need to be 450hp (not 350hp) at 3400lbs and could be priced at $65k+, but then again, the Supra was so overpriced that it wasn't selling, so again, this will be a niche market of buyers who decide to buy the overpriced Supra over its competitors.
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