People need to relax!!! - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

NickDude84 · 12-01-2011, 02:55 PM

people we need to relax about this car. really after years of following this car and surfing these forums for even a glimpse of a camo clad picture we are going to start nit picking about this car? I really do not understand some of the arguments being made here. the scion looks 90% of what the concept is, and after months of arguing that this car was going to be overpriced we see that they made some cuts in the form of luxury to price the car appropriately, and everyone is bitching about it.

I truly believe that they are going to start this car at 22k and perhaps charge 1k more for the automatic. that is a different enough price than a tc and it slots in nicely to compete with the gen coupe 2.0t. and if this is the price who cares that it doesn't have a starter button, fog lights, led headlights (like you wont be able to pick them up on ebay when the aftermarket gets a hold of this car) ect. w/e this a really cool car i love the look of it and since its a scion it will have a kick ass stereo and be priced correctly.

what it looks like is that the scion will be a more hard core bare bones car and the subaru will probly have more luxury items. both cars will have their pluses and minuses. i really like the scion and i like the scion brand i cannot wait to take this thing for a spin

Sparkplug · 12-01-2011, 02:59 PM

Agreed. I can't wait to drive both of them.

A low spec model will do nothing but help the modding/tuning community.

DA1 · 12-01-2011, 03:00 PM

Toyota / Subaru have created something for everyone.

Suck it up Princess!!!

gt86vx · 12-01-2011, 03:01 PM

lets hope the whiners don't take over this thread. but i agree with you TS!

bFreed · 12-01-2011, 03:15 PM

FORREAL!! I'm so excited about this car. I actually think it couldn't have turned out better. Exactly what I was hoping for. I think it looks better than all of the concepts.... But that's just me.

And the Scion version looks a bit cheesey. Which I'm also happy about! Everyone wanted lower cost. They delivered without losing all the good stuff. A nice DVD/Navi headunit, drop, wheels, I/H/E mods and this with be the ULTIMATE machine!!

Can't wait to buy my first SCION!!

MF_DEUCE · 12-01-2011, 03:18 PM

Finally, a thread written with common sense!

Jezza_hr · 12-01-2011, 03:26 PM

Welcome to the internet, where no man or woman is ever content with what they're given. If there's ever a reason to bitch and moan, they will find it as many of them believe the internet is for complaining and porn.

I can understand why people may be concerned by the price however, since Toyota are keeping this nervously close to their chests, which in turn makes the demographic nervous that they may not have the funds to shell out on what has always been perceived as a very cheap sports car. In fact, I recall rumours going around when the first leaked images were coming through that they expected this car to be in the £12,000 bracket which was never realistic. So, if people have always held that view, it's likely it has always been kept in mind that the car should be as cheap as possible, or at least in the low 20s.

NorCalRider · 12-01-2011, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MF_DEUCE

Finally, a thread written with common sense!

What he said, last night was the biggest cry baby fest I have seen in a long time on a forum.

Brody8877 · 12-01-2011, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorCalRider

What he said, last night was the biggest cry baby fest I have seen in a long time on a forum.

m.box.design · 12-01-2011, 03:40 PM

i'm pretty sure half the people complaining aren't old enough to buy a car or afford the car to begin with. people just want to complain for the sake of complaining.

KAuss · 12-01-2011, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indesign

i'm pretty sure half the people complaining aren't old enough to buy a car or afford the car to begin with. people just want to complain for the sake of complaining.

How are you sure?

KevinDuMa · 12-01-2011, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indesign

i'm pretty sure half the people complaining aren't old enough to buy a car or afford the car to begin with. people just want to complain for the sake of complaining.

By some of the post and threads started I'd definitely believe it. I think the Fr-S will start off $21,999 which is great for many, and BRZ will be the higher end starting at $23,999 for the premium...but I don't wanna get my hopes up...

m.box.design · 12-01-2011, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAuss

How are you sure?

Because I believe people who are mature or of age wouldn't re-iterate the same complaints over and over again in multiple threads, often times in incoherent ranting.

Franzo · 12-01-2011, 03:51 PM

I have been taking a "glass half full" approach to the differences between the 86 and FR-S. Sure the interior and exterior aren't quite as great looking as the 86 but that also means it will be more affordable for me which is the most important factor in my judgement on purchasing a FR-S. I feel scion has done a good job on making comprises to keep the price down. While the complainers see a ugly stero, I see a nice big double din opening to put the touch screen stero I want in!

12-01-2011, 02:55 PM	#1
NickDude84 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: 06' Scion TC Location: Miami FL Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	People need to relax!!! people we need to relax about this car. really after years of following this car and surfing these forums for even a glimpse of a camo clad picture we are going to start nit picking about this car? I really do not understand some of the arguments being made here. the scion looks 90% of what the concept is, and after months of arguing that this car was going to be overpriced we see that they made some cuts in the form of luxury to price the car appropriately, and everyone is bitching about it. I truly believe that they are going to start this car at 22k and perhaps charge 1k more for the automatic. that is a different enough price than a tc and it slots in nicely to compete with the gen coupe 2.0t. and if this is the price who cares that it doesn't have a starter button, fog lights, led headlights (like you wont be able to pick them up on ebay when the aftermarket gets a hold of this car) ect. w/e this a really cool car i love the look of it and since its a scion it will have a kick ass stereo and be priced correctly. what it looks like is that the scion will be a more hard core bare bones car and the subaru will probly have more luxury items. both cars will have their pluses and minuses. i really like the scion and i like the scion brand i cannot wait to take this thing for a spin

12-01-2011, 03:00 PM	#3
DA1 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: Accord Euro Location: Australia Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thumbs Up Toyota / Subaru have created something for everyone. Suck it up Princess!!!

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12-01-2011, 02:59 PM	#2
Sparkplug Rotard Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 135i M-Sport Location: NYC/NJ Posts: 137 Thanks: 71 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Agreed. I can't wait to drive both of them. A low spec model will do nothing but help the modding/tuning community.

12-01-2011, 03:01 PM	#4
gt86vx Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: MRRSX Location: Oklahoma Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	lets hope the whiners don't take over this thread. but i agree with you TS!

12-01-2011, 03:15 PM	#5
bFreed Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Drives: FRS, X83, W108 Location: MD Posts: 94 Thanks: 4 Thanked 20 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FORREAL!! I'm so excited about this car. I actually think it couldn't have turned out better. Exactly what I was hoping for. I think it looks better than all of the concepts.... But that's just me. And the Scion version looks a bit cheesey. Which I'm also happy about! Everyone wanted lower cost. They delivered without losing all the good stuff. A nice DVD/Navi headunit, drop, wheels, I/H/E mods and this with be the ULTIMATE machine!! Can't wait to buy my first SCION!!

12-01-2011, 03:26 PM	#7
Jezza_hr Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Drives: AE86 Trueno Location: Surrey Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Welcome to the internet, where no man or woman is ever content with what they're given. If there's ever a reason to bitch and moan, they will find it as many of them believe the internet is for complaining and porn. I can understand why people may be concerned by the price however, since Toyota are keeping this nervously close to their chests, which in turn makes the demographic nervous that they may not have the funds to shell out on what has always been perceived as a very cheap sports car. In fact, I recall rumours going around when the first leaked images were coming through that they expected this car to be in the £12,000 bracket which was never realistic. So, if people have always held that view, it's likely it has always been kept in mind that the car should be as cheap as possible, or at least in the low 20s.

12-01-2011, 03:40 PM	#10
m.box.design Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2013 Whiteout FRS Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 3,081 Thanks: 331 Thanked 1,662 Times in 933 Posts Mentioned: 107 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i'm pretty sure half the people complaining aren't old enough to buy a car or afford the car to begin with. people just want to complain for the sake of complaining.

12-01-2011, 03:51 PM	#14
Franzo Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2011 GTI Location: South Jersey Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have been taking a "glass half full" approach to the differences between the 86 and FR-S. Sure the interior and exterior aren't quite as great looking as the 86 but that also means it will be more affordable for me which is the most important factor in my judgement on purchasing a FR-S. I feel scion has done a good job on making comprises to keep the price down. While the complainers see a ugly stero, I see a nice big double din opening to put the touch screen stero I want in!

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