Should one wait for the 2014/2015 model?

[HitTheGas]

Originally Posted by stlgrym3

the only thing that's holding me back is if Toyota will come out with a more powerful version of ft86, a true Supra replacement. all indications point to Subaru will have a STi version of the BRZ in a couple years. i will be more than happy to pay $35000 for the Supra version of the ft86. can you say direct inject 3.5L V6 300+hp (same motor in the new GS350) with better suspension and possible dual clutch tranny?

the rumored supra would not be based on the gt-86. it would be a larger car & it would be competing w/ muscle cars; so 400ish hp. and likely more like 40 grand. this is all from rumors & speculation though, no1 knows if a supra will ever happen.

[KevinDuMa]

Originally Posted by jor8888

they are working on a more powerful model, bigger engine or same engine wtih turbo who knows.

Yes, and that engine is going to be for the new WRX STI.

[tachi1247]

Originally Posted by KevinDuMa

Yes, and that engine is going to be for the new WRX STI.

actually that engine is going to be for the base WRX. 270 hp turbocharged FA20. It's been confirmed by SOA.

It seems highly likely that the turbo will end up in the BRZ at some point, but not so certain about the FR-S. It doesn't fit with Scion's business model in this country....or their entry level position for this car. I'm sure Subaru would not be happy about a higher horsepower more nicely equipped vehicle being offered by Scion.

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by Boxer 86

There will be no chance whatsoever of that happening. The '86' name on the car (not only referring to the AE86) denotes the 86mmx86mm bore and stroke of the engine. And There will not be any 'Supra' version of this car. I can just guarantee you that they WILL NOT move from a boxer 4 layout.

+1

You said it. There will be a next generation supra but it won't be AS1 based. It will have a V6 engine with or without twin turbos. Think GT-R killer but RWD.

The LFA was not the supra replacement....the LFA is a LFA a real super car.

[Mulder]

Actually I'm curious to those that mentioned about first year kinks. Can anyone provide an example? I haven't been able to easily find notable examples of first year production problems, especially in recent cars.

I understand that every year, there should be new fixes and patches upon the car. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that the new patches/fixes don't introduce another problem :/

As one example, the 2008 Subaru STI was the new bodystyle. For the next several years Subaru made the suspension stiffer and stiffer because the 08 model had way too soft of suspension. I'm talking like 200% increases in stiffness IIRC. I remember C&D magazine talking about it, as well as my friend who bought an 08 whining about it.

Going back to my own experiences, the changes in years to the Tacoma kept getting better and better from the 90's-04. It got a better revised engine with less problems...aka...none, much higher quality interior in 2003, etc.

The 80's MR2 had several changes/upgrades that started at year 3 (the '87). For example, larger brake rotors.

Most of the issues are not critical or require recalls, but they are just little fixes to deficiencies or common complaints, or insightful changes to make things better.

[quik1987]

Didn't the price of the 370Z go up after the 1st year?

[Mulder]

Of course. It always does. That's largely just from inflation though.