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The sound of an American engine makes me sick to my stomach. Ditch the long stroke and embrace DOHC.
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I reckon we'll just have to wait a wee bit more to see what an Italian, (or is it French) car company can do for Chrysler LLC.
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It's your car and your purchase, but I just wouldn't do that. |
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Further, how many have "long strokes", however you define that? If anything, everybody is moving to longer strokes these days for emissions reasons. |
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I would have purchased the car if it was made by a domestic manufacturer. I also almost purchased a Solstice GXP a few years back but the uncertainty with Pontiac kept me away. |
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THe Ford Focus seems to be getting some good reviews (for small-car enthusiasts).
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I loved everything about it, until I tried to make a tight turn. The turning radius is abysmal, it's as big as a full-size truck's. Ford didn't sweat the details. |
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As someone who OWNS a 2002 SVT Focus, lives in a household where one person owns a 2012 fusion and has a best friend that not only works for Ford but has a 2011 5.0 I can honestly say they've taken a large large step up in terms of quality and depreciative value. That's not limited to Ford the same can be said for each one of the big three.
Guys it's still too early to condemn any of the newer vehicles to poor quality and it's unfair to judge their current vehicles on the poor quality models of yesteryear. That's like telling someone to improve, watching them make the effort and do a lot better and then still tell them they're trash for what they did in the past. Imagine if your boss had you take on a bunch of added responsibility at your job in preperation for a new position, now lets say you sucked at it. You start putting forth some serious effort and everyone around you sees you aren't the person you were before, you've really made some serious improvement. Now imagine your boss comes back and tells you he'd never hire you for that position because you suck at it. Is that fair? You start wondering if he's even been paying attention to the progress you made. That's why I feel bad for the big three, it seems now matter how well they do there'll still be people spreading the word they suck/people should stay away just cause of what they've done in the past .
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But I'd worry about long-term reliability if it had a Chrysler badge. A GM badge would have me worried about fit+finish until I could sit in one. A Ford badge would be best at this point in time. Now, ask me if I would have been first in line at my local dealership to place an order for one if it were from GM or Chrysler... |
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You mean something like this?
130R http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/09/c...-detroit-2012/ It could happen. Or not. http://www.autoblog.com/2012/11/19/f...ty-questioned/ It's ironic because many "American" brand cars are designed somewhere else. Most of Ford's, especially the good stuff, is all or mostly European derived. Heck, the new Camaro and Challenger aren't wholly American designs either. I'm getting to the point where my definition of an "American car" is a foreign car with a v8 mashed into it. Quote:
The American philosophy is that it's cheaper to start with more HP. That's how Ford has gotten away with selling a Mustang that is as powerful as a BMW M series but takes $10k in suspension to match the track handling. For such a niche car the Mustang still sells well after all these years. Obviously Europeans can't understand this(most will just laugh at the use of a SRA) because they have a lot of competition for such niche cars that America doesn't. Honestly, I would like to see Ford, GM, Chrysler(*Blegh*) build a global sportscar. Will it happen? Not likely. Ever. So I'd say no because it won't happen. |
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That Is Because: It is not, nor was it designed to be, a rear drive two passenger sports car for sports car enthusiasts. It is a FWD hatchback intended for a different market. |
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My Pontiac Montana, with about three feet more wheelbase, has a shorter radius - albeit not by much. Ford didn't sweat the details. They designed it for 205-section or whatever tires, and when they bolted on the 235s, realized they needed steering stops. |
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