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Thing that pissed me off about Forza and its swaps was the Mk3 Supra. You can only buy the 1GGTE version. Then you have to pay to upgrade by swapping in a 7M (this is a completely alien concept in North America). Or you can upgrade by swapping in a 2JZ (fair enough). But you can't just go and buy a freakin' 1JZ car or even swap in the motor. WTF? Twin Turbo R anybody???
Plus I think I remember looking at the mods and being allowed to upgrade the 'driveshaft' on FWD cars. Fail. This was on Forza 2. Visual customization was pretty cool though. As for the visuals of GT5 standard vs Forza 2 (haven't played newer ones as I was turned off by their weak physics). GT5 standard is still very superior to Forza 2. In the name of fairness, GT5 fails by allowing pretty much unlimited rear camber adjustment on solid axle cars. You would need some serious machine work for each adjustment. Also GT5 doesn't allow the same degree of customization on the transmission as they used to. (ie I can't adjust my final drive, or specific gear ratios like I could in the earlier games.)
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Edit: Might I add for the 240Z that I've put the RB26DETT in one of mine, just as an example. Quote:
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Another example would be the transmission - fully adjustable gear ratio's and final drive ratio on F3, and as far as I can tell only one adjustment on GT5 which is how high you want your top speed. And they call GT5 a simluator? Edit: I just want to add that I'm not a Forza fanboy, at all - Up until GT4 I thought the GT series was the best racing sim available... When F3 came out it topped GT4 and from then I've never though GT5 was consistently good enough to beat F3.
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As for the transmission, I'm puzzled as this is the first GT game to do this. The early ones GT and GT2 had the best gearing adjustment system. They overlayed the gear ranges/rpm drops graphically over a power/torque curve so you could perfectly tune the ratios to your engine. Now you can't even change your final drive. WTF???
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As I said in the edit at the end of my post lol, I used to religiously play the GT series, because they WERE the best series out... Until GT5. I will admit I have only played GT5 briefly, and was extremely disappointed with it....
I know the settings used real units in all of the first 4 GT's, but I saw Ichi (I think?) post his FT86 settings in one of the threads around here and most of them were just a number between 1 and 10? I could be wrong about this, and I apologize if I am, because it means I'm misinformed and probably shouldn't be talking about the subject
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Educated "Guess"? That's your answer....LoL...ok man. Go play Forza then with the educated guess of a physics engine. And YES GT5 does Test cars. Kaz competes in real life motorsports. http://www.gtplanet.net/kazunori-yam...burgring-race/ Go compare the Nurburgring in GT5 (or any previous GT series) to that of Forza's version of the Nurburgring.....Not even close bro. But hey listen this isn't a Forza vs GT thread, so if you want to do a Pro and Con then we can make a new thread. With that said...New PICS! |
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GT5 = FT-86C and GSport
Forza = No FT-86 End debate...lol. PS...Forza doesn't even include rare/concept cars? Quote:
All that you listed just now, was in GT5P, and it's only a matter of a DL that it will be added to GT5. Is GT5 100% completed...No. So, if GT5 competes and exceeds Forza 3 in areas, imagine what a 100% completed GT5 will do. Ok, sorry...back on topic now. |
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I was just saying that there is no way GT5 tested EVERY car in the game, like you seemed to be implying in your last post they did. Quote:
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And Forza does include rare cars... Some examples are the Tuned Japanese cars like the Mine's Skylines, Top Secret Supra's, Nur' Spec Skyline, etc. and I'm sure there are more, just can't think of them off the top of my head. Edit: There's always a chance it's going to be added by DLC (not free)... And that should be considered an add-on, not an unfinshed part of the game, just in case you try and come back with that argument. Quote:
EVERY person I know with GT5 has been dissapointed with it in many ways.
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What? Can't put VH45DETT in 240z? Microsft, you lost a customer
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Disappointed in many ways? I can say there are some nits that I pick at, but it's really only because they are contrasted with how good everything else is. (Another nit-pick in GT5: interior view steering is fail. Compare how many turns the wheel takes lock to lock with Midnight Club LA...)
But I seriously had to lend it to a friend cause I was playing too much... I have a 360 and a PS3. I bought Forza 2 as an in-between while waiting for GT5. But after a bit of play, I found myself playing GT4 on the PS2 more. The Forza 2 vs GT4 shouldn't be a fair comparison as we are talking about two different system generations. But I still feel the physics in GT4 are better than Forza 2. And they took 3 freakin' games to put a 1JZ in a Supra? Part of the delays and the 'incomplete' nature of the game is a testament to kaizen, how they will continue towards perfection. They are testing real cars to get them as close as possible. And as they continue to test they will continue to improve GT5. And that is freakin' awesome. Back to photo stuff... Nice tandem drift shots, Dragon. You gotta try what you mentioned earlier, drifting towards each other. Would make some awesome pics.
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Read his video description. Simple little things such as accuracy in car detailing is what I love about GT, let alone their attention to detail when it comes to tracks. Exhibit A: HKS Evo. Notice the rear bumper of a comparison video. @ :59sec pause the video and take a look at the rear bumper of the HKS Evo on the Forza3 side. Then @ 1:10 pause it and see the rear on the GT5 side. Now the real HKS Evo: Last edited by Dragonitti; 12-19-2010 at 12:57 AM. |
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LOL I thought Forza vs GT gonna go some other thread.
Anyways, Dragon, nice pics. 2nd race, I couldn't get close to you as I wanted. Maybe next time |
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