Innovate (Sprintex) Supercharger Owners Topic

[bfrank1972]

Congrats it sounds like exactly what the car needs. I'll be limited to 93 here in CT, there actually is E85 about 20 minutes from where I work, but its 20 minutes in the wrong direction so not worth it. How does it feel power wise to other faster cars you've driven?

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[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

Congrats it sounds like exactly what the car needs. I'll be limited to 93 here in CT, there actually is E85 about 20 minutes from where I work, but its 20 minutes in the wrong direction so not worth it. How does it feel power wise to other faster cars you've driven?

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You could get flex fuel and run E85 when you want to have some extra fun, or take a few 5 gallon jugs with you to not have to drive there as much, or with flex fuel you could fill up say 3 5gallon jugs and do a 50/50 mix making E50 so you got over 3 tanks 4 tanks counting the tank you fill up there. Some options to consider.

As far as the car, it basically feels like a 3L V6 making 300hp vs a 2L flat4 making 200hp. Power is less peaking but still solid across the whole band.

[bfrank1972]

Good point about the mixing, probably 50/50 gets you 80% of the benefits. Food for thought...

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[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

Good point about the mixing, probably 50/50 gets you 80% of the benefits. Food for thought...

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And with flex fuel you get the benefits of 1 tune adjusting based on the E% the sensor detects.

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[86TOYO2k17]

Another option if you don’t want to E85 is wmi, I live 45min from E85 so I opted for WMI. Gets you about 50% of the gains from E85 but with more added cooling properties. You can do many back to back pulls without worrying about intake temps. Takes a bit of work to get setup but once it’s set you can pretty much forget about it besides filling tank every once in a while. Or best yet E85 and WMI don’t think anyone has tried that yet on this platform.

[bfrank1972]

Cool, so is your wmi controlled by ecutek? I.e. when to fire it and fail safe map if it runs dry.

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[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

Cool, so is your wmi controlled by ecutek? I.e. when to fire it and fail safe map if it runs dry.

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AEM WMI injection uses a controller to control what PSI it turns on at and what PSI it is at max pump duty or full spray. And it increases linearly between those points. I have it set to turn on at 5.5psi so it never sprays when DDing, and then max spray at 13.5psi which would be 500cc but I want about 400cc and with 72.5mm pulley it reads 11.1psi at WOT so I get to 80% or 400cc at WOT. Then I have the AEM failsafe to monitor flow rate and you set min and max flow rates at each cycle % and a timer. So I have it at 300cc min 500cc max at WOT with a .7sec delay so if it sprays outside those points for over .7 sec then it triggers the failsafe, and the failsafe is hooked up to my ecu which is controlled by my ecutek to basically switch to my failsafe map which is just a normal non WMI map tune.

[JDM_Import]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Getting rid of the second cat in the front-pipe will probably free up about 2whp. Jdl ultra quiet FP or hks double res FP will keep noise and drone down while losing the cat.

2whp doesnt sound very convincing but I say a high flow mid pipe would deliver somewhat a smother power curve.

[JDM_Import]

Hey guys sorry if his has been covered before but this thread is hella long to go through...
I just read on ft86 web site that 69mm pulley will overdrive the 210 Sprintex S/C. Is anyone here running the 69mm pulley on a 210 Sprintex (94 octane) any issues/problems/failures? Im currently running this set up and have heard someone mention before, they do stress the blower. I never saw this as a problem but Im starting to question it....can someone elaborate on this..

[OzzyGT86]

Originally Posted by JDM_Import

Hey sorry if his has been covered before but this thread is hella long to cover right now...
I just read on ft86 web site that 69mm pulley will overdrive the 210 Sprintex S/C. Is anyone here running the 69mm pulley on a 210 Sprintex (94 octane) any issues/problems/failures? Im currently running this set up and have heard once someone mention they do stress the blower. I never saw this as a problem but Im starting to question it....can someone elaborate on this..

When I had this kit I ran the 69mm pulley on e85 and had no problems with a few track days and occasional pulls. This biggest let down was the drop off in power at the top of the rev range. Other than that just change the oil more frequently on the blower and you’ll be alright.

[JDM_Import]

Originally Posted by OzzyGT86

When I had this kit I ran the 69mm pulley on e85 and had no problems with a few track days and occasional pulls. This biggest let down was the drop off in power at the top of the rev range. Other than that just change the oil more frequently on the blower and you’ll be alright.

It does pull harder at the low-mid rpms which I like because I mainly daily drive my car. I dont track very often, maybe once or twice a year.
How long did you have the kit for?

[OzzyGT86]

Originally Posted by JDM_Import

It does pull harder at the low-mid rpms which I like because I mainly daily drive my car. I dont track very often, maybe once or twice a year.
How long did you have the kit for?

Yeah that is a nice bonus. I had the kit for about 8k miles

[JDM_Import]

Originally Posted by SleeBrzz

What’s everyone's thought on the 69mm pulley with the 210 intercooled kit on 94 octane? I have tried searching about this already, and read that it can overdrive the charger. Has anyone experienced problems with it?
I will be having my car re-tuned soon and thinking I would love to get some more power but I am worried of jeopardizing my supercharger from the 69mm pulley. I have also seen raceseng used to make a 72.5mm pulley but its been long discontinued. Anyone possibly have one of those kicking around?

I just saw your post in regards to the 69mm pulley. I just asked the same question on the this thread because Ive searched but haven't found anything. Im also on 210 supercharger with 69mm pulley & 94 octane. Do you have any updates on this, anything we should be aware of?

[sroby]

JDM, do yourself a favor, like Jon Bond performance on Facebook. Ask him the pertinent questions, When I was running mine, I had all pulleys 69,70, 75 , and I believe 80.
Jon will let you know the max rpm,s engineered for the rotors is I believe just shy of 15,000 rpm,s. With the 70 your are just slightly over driving the rotor pac. Not a problem if your not doing endurance racing. The 69mm spins the rotor pac to slightly over 17,000 rpm.
You are going to hear bench racers on the forum giving you all their engineering credentials.
That being said, bond has been doing superchargers in the industry for many many years. As he is also an engineer he knows his stuff and can back it up with fact. In the Sprintex/ bullet supercharger world, he knows the tech data that sprintex USA division in Michigan hasn’t a clue, or at least won’t even provide torque specs on internal bolts I.e nose drive, rotor pac etc.
It’s a great unit for the money used, have it gone through upgraded as I did mine with Viton seals and ceramic bearings. Never let it get low on oil in the nose drive or it’s toast.
It has an inherent design flaw from an engineering standpoint that the nose drive gears are to close to the front seals. It gets hot in there. He created the catch can for it to relieve the presure as the oil gets pounded by the front gears. It works some what but under heavy boost mine would puke out tha can causing a mess. I removed it. Plugged it and would just pre-trip it and post trip it after every run. Do this and you will be fine.
Again Jon Bond needs to start being your best friend with the sprintex. Hope this helps.