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Old 03-02-2014, 07:47 AM   #29
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For everyone here that's mentioned about getting a ticket, you guys should always try contesting it. There is nothing to lose, even if the court finds you guilty, you will still have the choice of traffic school if you are eligible (you haven't gone the last 18 months or you didn't speed over a certain amount).

Also, there is another easier way other than actually making a court date and going to court. This is by written decleration, where you basically mail or deliver your statement to the court (there is a specific form) along with any evidence you have. The officer will do the same and the court will make the decision. In the event the officer does not file his response, you are dismissed. The same thing would happen if you show up to court in person and the officer does not appear, your case is dismissed.

Basically when you contest, you just want the officer to not file a response or not to show up. If they do, the chances of the judge finding you guilty is pretty high.

Personally I've had 2 speeding citations in my BRZ over the last year and a half. Both of them got dismissed after I went through trial by written declaration. Give it a shot

Check out the link below too, it has some good info regarding fighting citations.

http://www.ticketassassin.com/home.php?page=fight
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For everyone here that's mentioned about getting a ticket, you guys should always try contesting it. There is nothing to lose, even if the court finds you guilty, you will still have the choice of traffic school if you are eligible (you haven't gone the last 18 months or you didn't speed over a certain amount).

Also, there is another easier way other than actually making a court date and going to court. This is by written decleration, where you basically mail or deliver your statement to the court (there is a specific form) along with any evidence you have. The officer will do the same and the court will make the decision. In the event the officer does not file his response, you are dismissed. The same thing would happen if you show up to court in person and the officer does not appear, your case is dismissed.

Basically when you contest, you just want the officer to not file a response or not to show up. If they do, the chances of the judge finding you guilty is pretty high.

Personally I've had 2 speeding citations in my BRZ over the last year and a half. Both of them got dismissed after I went through trial by written declaration. Give it a shot

Check out the link below too, it has some good info regarding fighting citations.

http://www.ticketassassin.com/home.php?page=fight

The idea seems good, not sure about their product..just did some reviews on and it doesnt look too good Thanks for the advice though!
http://www.yelp.com/biz/ticket-assas...lroy-san-diego
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^What they said. And get a good radar/laser detector such as Escort 9500ix, usually around $450.
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For everyone here that's mentioned about getting a ticket, you guys should always try contesting it. There is nothing to lose, even if the court finds you guilty, you will still have the choice of traffic school if you are eligible (you haven't gone the last 18 months or you didn't speed over a certain amount).

Also, there is another easier way other than actually making a court date and going to court. This is by written decleration, where you basically mail or deliver your statement to the court (there is a specific form) along with any evidence you have. The officer will do the same and the court will make the decision. In the event the officer does not file his response, you are dismissed. The same thing would happen if you show up to court in person and the officer does not appear, your case is dismissed.

Basically when you contest, you just want the officer to not file a response or not to show up. If they do, the chances of the judge finding you guilty is pretty high.

Personally I've had 2 speeding citations in my BRZ over the last year and a half. Both of them got dismissed after I went through trial by written declaration. Give it a shot

Check out the link below too, it has some good info regarding fighting citations.

http://www.ticketassassin.com/home.php?page=fight
yes I'd say definitely contest, whether by mail or in person. the downside of the trial by decl is it's easier, both for you and the officer, to respond. Appearing in person requires more effort, and that's where you're banking on the officer preferring to enjoy his/her day off as opposed to busting you (again). A friend noted that it's considered OT for the officer though, so that could be a couple hours easy pay for them.

Are you able to ask for a fine reduction in a trial by decl.? I would feel like doing so in person would be more compelling to the judge, than some kind of written request.
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I contested a speeding ticket thru trafficfighters.com. They are basically lawyers who contest your ticket thru the mail. My ticket was dismissed however my cousin tried and didn't win so YMMV. Something about trial by mail makes it more of PITA for the ticketing officer that they tend to not bother with it.

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So most of you ya'll just ended up paying the ticket and going to traffic school. I was reading something online like only 5% of tix are contested and half of them are dismissed
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yes I'd say definitely contest, whether by mail or in person. the downside of the trial by decl is it's easier, both for you and the officer, to respond. Appearing in person requires more effort, and that's where you're banking on the officer preferring to enjoy his/her day off as opposed to busting you (again). A friend noted that it's considered OT for the officer though, so that could be a couple hours easy pay for them.

Are you able to ask for a fine reduction in a trial by decl.? I would feel like doing so in person would be more compelling to the judge, than some kind of written request.
Yeah, its an easy money day for them to appear (my uncle is CHP)

And while I do believe most still get away with traffic school if you contest, I believe the actual statute says you can lose that right by contesting (This is what I recall from about a year ago so don't hold me to it). May only happen if the judge is having a bad day but is something to consider.
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The idea seems good, not sure about their product..just did some reviews on and it doesnt look too good Thanks for the advice though!
http://www.yelp.com/biz/ticket-assas...lroy-san-diego

oh just for info, I wasn't recommend using them. it was just some good information about how you contest it.

it is really easy to do trial by written declaration. go to the court website of the county you got the ticket in. look for the trial by written decleration form and fill out and mail in. another way is go to the court directly, request it with the clerk, they will give you the form. then you just fill it out and you can turn it back to them.


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Can't say for sure if it's easier or not for the officer to write a response to written declerations. Like I said, I had two tickets and I did this, both got dismissed. I guess it really depends on the officer, maybe they are on vacation or they just hate paperwork? Also the clerk told me you can put request for the judge to lower the fine in the event you are found guilty. This is at discretion of the judge.

Also another bonus to doing the trial by written decleration first is this, if they find you guilty, you actually have the chance to request a new trial. this time, it would be in person at the court. so you actually have two chances for the officer to not show up
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I've also read you can try to contact the officer and explain to them since they are able to drop the case anytime. It might work since this is my first stop ever, but I am worried that plan might backfire.
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Unless you know another chp, sheriff or cop, that knows them whom can get them to not turn in the ticket, you will likely not get anywhere especially if he didn't say anything to you when he gave you the ticket. If you were to try to talk you're way out it it's usually at the moment you make first contact.

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I've also read you can try to contact the officer and explain to them since they are able to drop the case anytime. It might work since this is my first stop ever, but I am worried that plan might backfire.
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Unless you know another chp, sheriff or cop, that knows them whom can get them to not turn in the ticket, you will likely not get anywhere especially if he didn't say anything to you when he gave you the ticket. If you were to try to talk you're way out it it's usually at the moment you make first contact.

you are probably right. I am still deciding on what I will do...
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Sometimes they don't care to check for documents. About 2 years ago I was on my Harley and rolled a stop sign. I had no m1 license, no insurance. Gave me my ticket and was on his way. Was more interested in knowing what mods I had done, lol.
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oh just for info, I wasn't recommend using them. it was just some good information about how you contest it.

it is really easy to do trial by written declaration. go to the court website of the county you got the ticket in. look for the trial by written decleration form and fill out and mail in. another way is go to the court directly, request it with the clerk, they will give you the form. then you just fill it out and you can turn it back to them.


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Can't say for sure if it's easier or not for the officer to write a response to written declerations. Like I said, I had two tickets and I did this, both got dismissed. I guess it really depends on the officer, maybe they are on vacation or they just hate paperwork? Also the clerk told me you can put request for the judge to lower the fine in the event you are found guilty. This is at discretion of the judge.

Also another bonus to doing the trial by written decleration first is this, if they find you guilty, you actually have the chance to request a new trial. this time, it would be in person at the court. so you actually have two chances for the officer to not show up
+1 on this.. I got a speeding ticket I was going about 48 mph (def less than 50) in 45 mph zone about 5 years back. The cop was the same as OPs. Didn't give me a pep talk, safety, nothing. When he handed me the ticket it said I was going 60. I did the trial by declaration, cop apparently never responded and my ticket was dismissed.

At worst, you lose the trial by declaration and you go to court or you still have the option to just go to traffic school.

I also waited until the very last day that I could send in the trial by declaration and dropped by the court to turn it in person. I think it helps if you don't talk to the cop and they don't remember anything about you... the less details they remember the less likely they'll contest/write up and respond to your trial by declaration.
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Now-a-days the only thing you can fight against the cop if you want to show up in court is the chance that said cop did not "tune" the laser/radar" per ticket. (they can prove that based on the radar's record and time for calibration). You can also ask the cop for that information when he pulls you over as well.

All of the bullshit about the speed laws are stupid now a days, it use to be you can drive at and speed as long as it was safe, but because there is now a law saying that You cannot drive above the posted speed limit appended to that traffic code.

Another way you can defend yourself is that you can find out when the last time the street was surveyed and if it was more than 7 years ago, or along those lines you can fight that the posted limit is outdated and needs to be re-surveyed. This would throw the ticket out of the window, but this is even less likely.

source --> http://www.ticketassassin.com/

IMHO, it's easier to eat the ticket, take online traffic school and get the point removed -- You save more money in the long run because you won't get the insurance hike.

Also this car is new. I got my notice in the mail, paid it, took online traffic school and got everything done within 2 hours MAX (counting the online search for traffic school).

the only negative thing is that if you plead to go to traffic school it's another 40 bucks on the ticket that they tack on. Assholes, and that 40 dollars is tax!
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@cdo221 I think my biggest fear about TBD is I heard if you do this you lose the option to go to driving school
@CamryDS thanks for your tips. I am still worried the officer will show up to court he was youngish and the OT pay
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