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Old 12-19-2018, 03:09 AM   #505
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Could have called the dealer where the car was bought and they would have let you know as well . I posted bout the site being down days ago so I called the dealer and Subaru let me know I was on the recall :/


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Old 12-19-2018, 06:31 AM   #506
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Any thoughts on how Toyota will treat me? My stock engine grenaded at around 80k and now I have a refurbished engine installed by a dealership for approx 10k out of my own pocket because Toyota refused to provided assistance (they never said why) but presumably because I was past warranty. As mentioned here this problem is not simply worse case scenario the engine stalls...
Your vin may be affected, but if it does not have it's original engine, the recall will not apply.

Also, I don't know if it's been said, but "engine stall" is the simplest way they can phrase it in a way that everyone understands.

The consequences of a valve spring failing is yes, the engine stalling...

... Because a spring failed, the keepers popped out and the valve dropped in the cylinder, allowing it to contact the piston resulting in catastrophic engine damage.

But as I said, even if the vin on your car's body is involved in the recall, your replacement engine isn't.
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Old 12-19-2018, 07:59 AM   #507
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Stalling denotes there is a possibility it will restart or be able to be restarted. They need to change that wording to say that the engine will stop running. At that point people would at least know that they will likely have reduced braking and steering and need to pull over immediately.
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Stalling denotes there is a possibility it will restart or be able to be restarted. They need to change that wording to say that the engine will stop running. At that point people would at least know that they will likely have reduced braking and steering and need to pull over immediately.
To add to this, I've actually seen some people say that the EPS keeps running when the engine is off. This is false. If you were mid turn while texting with one hand (come on you know there are even idiots driving Twins) and holding the wheel with the other, it would could come as a shock when the EPS dies.
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Stalling denotes there is a possibility it will restart or be able to be restarted. They need to change that wording to say that the engine will stop running. At that point people would at least know that they will likely have reduced braking and steering and need to pull over immediately.
99.99% of the people impacted by this recall will not care what the wording is. They could simply have said "your engine will be brokeded" and it would be sufficient. Anybody dumb enough to try to keep driving when their engine is thumping and clattering is going to do it no matter what the wording of the recall is.
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To add to this, I've actually seen some people say that the EPS keeps running when the engine is off. This is false. If you were mid turn while texting with one hand (come on you know there are even idiots driving Twins) and holding the wheel with the other, it would could come as a shock when the EPS dies.
Is that with the ignition in the on position? Why would it stop just because the engine is not turning?
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Is that with the ignition in the on position? Why would it stop just because the engine is not turning?

I'm also a bit confused by this. I've turned the key to the on position so I could use the steering to check wheel clearance with brake ducts without having to run the engine.



Was this just steering unlocked, but not power steering?
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Is that with the ignition in the on position? Why would it stop just because the engine is not turning?
Yes, with the ignition on. I have no clue why they would do it this way. The battery is there, they should use it.
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Yes, with the ignition on. I have no clue why they would do it this way. The battery is there, they should use it.
Must be powered directly from the alternator and not through the battery. No engine spin no power. Good to know!
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I just tested this and indeed the power steering quits with the engine off and the ignition on. I have no idea why. It's not hard to steer but it does take a little more effort. I think this car would be fine without power steering.What surprises me is the power brakes seem to still work fine. Residual vacuum maybe?
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I just tested this and indeed the power steering quits with the engine off and the ignition on. I have no idea why. It's not hard to steer but it does take a little more effort. I think this car would be fine without power steering.What surprises me is the power brakes seem to still work fine. Residual vacuum maybe?
A car with standard steering as designed is fine. A car that is supposed to have power steering but it stops working is a different matter. Anybody that has ever had their power steering stop mid turn knows what I mean.
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I just tested this and indeed the power steering quits with the engine off and the ignition on. I have no idea why. It's not hard to steer but it does take a little more effort. I think this car would be fine without power steering.What surprises me is the power brakes seem to still work fine. Residual vacuum maybe?
Yeah it's not too bad when you are moving but at a dead stop it's extremely hard to turn. On the braking it's just left over vacuum but it probably wouldn't last for many pumps.
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I have the valve spring recall information from Toyota. Different parts for automatics and manuals.
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Maybe I should just wait for my clutch til then and have them do it while the motor is out.
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