Kreissieg Exhaust

[Clipdat]

I would go with a catless front pipe from Motiv concepts. It will make your existing exhaust sound better. http://www.motivconcepts.com/scion-frs/test-pipe/

[FAER]

if you can afford it, good on you... me HELL NO i'm spending roughly 7k on a turbokit w/ full supporting mods and full turbo back exhuast.. i know i'm going to love it.. UEL manifold, turbo and full 3" exhuast with no resonators.... mmmmm sexy

[projectXTR]

If I had that kind of money on hand to spend I would actually consider it.
But not before I heard at least a sound clip of it.

The only problem is that our cars don't make enough power to justify the F1 sound though. Maybe if you already went F/I it would make sense...

I'd say if you can and want to have a unique sounding car, go for it ! (but post a clip afterwards so we can drool ! :p)

[zephyr69]

Originally Posted by qoncept

IMO, if you aren't happy with the exhaust note with what you've heard, you're never going to be. I know I'll never like it after 10 years with my WRX. So I got a quiet catback. I would never spend even a quarter of that price on an exhaust, and certainly not on one I'd never heard.

Thanks for your comment. I understand that it is extremely risky to pay so much for an exhaust that I've never even heard. Maybe I've been hanging out with the wrong crowd haha..all my friends have lambo, ferrari, porsches which have a much more exotic sound.

Originally Posted by sumo junkie

I'm going to go against the grain here, but if you're in the financial position to afford it, why not? People buy 100,000USD watches that tell time no better than a 10USD Casio, but they can afford it and that's what they enjoy. You've done everything else you wanted to do to your car; buy the exhaust and love it.

Appreciate your comment. You bring up a very interesting point. Yes, some people spend on 10 USD on a Casio and some 100,000USD for something like a Rolex. I guess its all about how you "value" things. If I do get this exhaust, I just hope it sounds better than an average JDM tuner exhaust.

Originally Posted by dabocx

If you have the money go for it but they should make it a headerback at least. Its a shame if they spend all this money designing this perfect sounding catback and then you put a front pipe and header and everything changes.

For the super high price I think id get the amuse setup.

Thanks for comment! I hope so too..this is also why I am thinking twice about this purchase. There's alot of unknown factors for example: sound, compatability with other after market pipes..I don't even know whether it will be a catback or just an axle back. They will just make whatever is necessary to get the best sound available from the engine.

I was thinking about the amuse setup after looking through the Hyper Rev Magazine I bought a few weeks ago. The thing is there are so many exhaust systems for this car from Japan..but they rarely post soundclips for their exhaust. I tried looking through many Japanese websites but ended up finding nothing.

[jonbonazza]

Your best bet for sound clips is Youtube.

[zephyr69]

Originally Posted by FAER

if you can afford it, good on you... me HELL NO i'm spending roughly 7k on a turbokit w/ full supporting mods and full turbo back exhuast.. i know i'm going to love it.. UEL manifold, turbo and full 3" exhuast with no resonators.... mmmmm sexy

Thanks for your comment! hahaha..nice! Keep us updated. Sounds like it will be beastttt. I've been waiting for some nice proven NA setups from Japan..however it seems like it will take awhile before anything good comes up.

[zephyr69]

Originally Posted by projectXTR

If I had that kind of money on hand to spend I would actually consider it.
But not before I heard at least a sound clip of it.

The only problem is that our cars don't make enough power to justify the F1 sound though. Maybe if you already went F/I it would make sense...

I'd say if you can and want to have a unique sounding car, go for it ! (but post a clip afterwards so we can drool ! :p)

Thanks for your comment. And I do agree with you. Maybe somebody else on this forum can buy the exhaust and send me a sound clip hahahah. They probably can't make the F1 sound with this car..but it will be more raw/higher pitch I think. Check out this video of a Lotus and VW R32.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZXucatt5AM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZXucatt5AM[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsUNkljdRSA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsUNkljdRSA[/ame]

[projectXTR]

The lotus is mid-engined so the pipes are shorter, wouldn't really be a good indication of what to expect. The R32 on the other hand is closer I think.

[dabocx]

I wont doubt that the amuse system will sound awesome and they offer a front pipe. Its light, stupid good quality and will sound good.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41108
If not this setup is pretty sick and I think for the price of either the amuse or the one you want you can get this full setup with the header and everything. I just think it needs a overpipe but that wont be hard to get.

Also search auto factory their setup sounded amazing and plenty of people on here lusted for that setup.

[dokterdewe]

Autofactory is nice setup though the tip design isnt not for all... bending down...

[zephyr69]

If you guys were to choose between billet steel exhaust tips or titanium burnt tips. Which would you guys choose?

[dokterdewe]

Full bluish titanium like amuse does... if you prefer the bluish... if not...

I think a brushed steel finish is better looking than a polished one...

[Gardus@Supersprint]

We could make a valved rear muffler for half that...
As the GT86 doesn't have a valve as stock you need a system that will let you choose between quiet and loud mode.
You can purchase a compatible electro-pneumatic valve (to be fitted on the intake so it'll give you a vacuum line) + switch (or even a remote) + vacuum pipes for less than $ 300.

This will control a pneumatic valve on the exhasut and will allow to between loud and quiet mode at will.
We don't use electrical valve as they are prone to failure caused by heat.

Aso for the design, the loud mode can be a direct pipe, the silenced as quiet as our homologated system.
Both modes can discharge through the tailpipes, to avoid bypass pipe that send the gas under the car as some cheap systems does.

This is for the TT-RS, perfect left-right split in both modes:

The valve is made by HJS (which provide our cats) and has its own heatshield.


This is how the sound changes...
[ame]http://youtu.be/1y0qO1X-wkw?t=3m51s[/ame]
[ame]http://youtu.be/tIat84CM13s?t=32s[/ame]

[projectXTR]

Gardus what are you waiting for then?

(TT sounds mint btw!)