Official: Toyota FT-1 Concept / First New Supra Prototype Spotted!

[vh_supra26]

Originally Posted by krayzie

The proportion looks off cuz the car is too short yet too tall. Looks retarded to me. Thanks BMW!

The racecar doesn't look as bad cuz of the wider body and lower ground effects.

Still think LC500 has it nailed.

It's the same height as the 86, but longer.

Yes, and that thing weights 4,300lbs

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by HKz

still a bit of a bait and switch with the GR Supra...they had to give it a huge widebody kit that also had much larger wheel wells which made the car appear much lower and wider than reality.. They did a decent job grafting the FT1 looks onto a 2 seater but it appears the MK4 will retain its sexy title

yeah but at least we can make it look more like the GR concept with a widebody kit, better and larger wheels, and a drop.

goodluck trying to replicate both the FT1's proportions and styling with the A90. i think it might be easier buying a wreck Lexus LC and having a good body shop make some custom body panels.

[vh_supra26]

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/hea...-mt-fuji.1470/

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UzQmL4PveQ[/ame]

[R_E_L]

Originally Posted by krayzie

The proportion looks off cuz the car is too short yet too tall. Looks retarded to me. Thanks BMW!

The racecar doesn't look as bad cuz of the wider body and lower ground effects.

Still think LC500 has it nailed.

More than the wider body I think what you are noticing is the different view point. A slightly above, less foreshortened 3/4 view vs the near ground level highly foreshortened view of the red car which shortens and exaggerates the narrowness of the car, making it appear oddly tall.

Just look at how much more surface area you see on the hood of the GR vs the stock car. The angles used in these images make all the difference. I'm pretty confident the car will look fantastic in person.

[krayzie]

This pic looks the best thus far.

[Pbrown]

In Canada

BMW M240i $47100 (same engine)
Audi RS3 $63000 (394 hp) faster car
Porsche Caymen $63000 more prestige (300hp) and always voted the best drivers car
Infiniti Q60 Redsport $62300 (400 hp)

Based on the above, in Canada the price point should be around $55-59000.00. They will probably also do what the Civic Type R did on its release in North America and charge a ridiculous lease and finance interest rate. 12 days until clarity of the car and probably a couple of months on the price and engine types available in NA.

My 2 cents.

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by Pbrown

In Canada

BMW M240i $47100 (same engine)
Audi RS3 $63000 (394 hp) faster car
Porsche Caymen $63000 more prestige (300hp) and always voted the best drivers car
Infiniti Q60 Redsport $62300 (400 hp)

The Audi seems like an odd choice. It's a FWD based economy based platform. If anything, pick the TT-RS (unless that's not sold in Canada?). Beyond the others, why no mention of the Camaro SS? In base, let alone 1LE trim, will be considerably faster than the Supra.

Also, btw it's spelled CaymAn.

[Pbrown]

that the car was going to be $60,000.00 US ($78000.00 cdn.+ 13% tax) when it goes on sale. All things being equal, they would be lucky to sell any except at that price given as you have expertly pointed out the vast array of sports cars for equivalent or much less money. The mustang bullitt is $57000.00 cdn. Toyotas accountants must be having some long discussions on this subject as I am sure ego and hometown bias is probably clouding the pricing conversations.

[vh_supra26]

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/wat...-detroit.1473/

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by Pbrown

In Canada

BMW M240i $47100 (same engine)
Audi RS3 $63000 (394 hp) faster car
Porsche Caymen $63000 more prestige (300hp) and always voted the best drivers car
Infiniti Q60 Redsport $62300 (400 hp)

Based on the above, in Canada the price point should be around $55-59000.00. They will probably also do what the Civic Type R did on its release in North America and charge a ridiculous lease and finance interest rate. 12 days until clarity of the car and probably a couple of months on the price and engine types available in NA.

My 2 cents.

The Porsche Cayman is a nice car, but now it's stuck with a turbo 4 cylinder engine. I can't imagine there is a lot of potential left for getting more power out of it. Not compared to an iron block inline 6 anyways. I wouldnt be surprised if the Supra steals the Cayman's crown for best driver's car.

Originally Posted by Pbrown

that the car was going to be $60,000.00 US ($78000.00 cdn.+ 13% tax) when it goes on sale. All things being equal, they would be lucky to sell any except at that price given as you have expertly pointed out the vast array of sports cars for equivalent or much less money. The mustang bullitt is $57000.00 cdn. Toyotas accountants must be having some long discussions on this subject as I am sure ego and hometown bias is probably clouding the pricing conversations.

The Mustang is also 3,700lbs and a much larger car. The Supra is slated to weigh around 3,200lbs and it will be a more compact car with a lower seating position. Plus it's going to be a lot more exclusive than a Mustang, I see those on the road everywhere.

[WolfpackS2k]

Really no chance in hell of it being a better driving car than the Porsche. The Mustang or Camaro performance models? Maybe.


BTW that 3200 lbs is for the 4 cylinder model.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

BTW that 3200 lbs is for the 4 cylinder model.

we don't know that for sure. the only info given by Toyota on weight was during the media test drive in Spain. Toyota did confrim that the I6 Supra was less than 1,500kg (3,306lbs). 9 days to go!

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Really no chance in hell of it being a better driving car than the Porsche.

What makes you say that?

[WolfpackS2k]

Everything we know about the car thus far, and everything we know about the (already released) BMW Z4.

And I won't even mention the Porsche having manual shift options, but for auto comparison the PDK >>> ZF 8sp