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02-12-2016, 10:30 AM | #1 |
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The Dangers of Keyless Ignitions
If you are in the D.C. area and get WUSA Channel 9, they have a report on there tonight (2/12) about keyless ignitions (push button start) at 11:00 p.m.
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Was it about the signal amplifiers which make the car think that the keyfob is next to the car, while it is 100 ft away in the owner's house?
I saw a security paper on this, but can't find the link now. Apparently, this is another instance of car manufacturers being cheap (like GM ignition switches) because there are a few inexpensive solutions that might have prevented this. Now owners are advised to keep their keyfobs in the fridge (for electric shielding) |
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Since the show airs tonight at 11:00, I have no idea what it might entail. Will have to tune in ..........
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Go to Home Depot, buy a bunch of wire mesh, and make a Faraday cage. Problem solved, problem staying solved.
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Maybe a metal tea can would suffice. |
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Here is that paper, by the way
http://www.syssec.ethz.ch/content/da...h/spot/332.pdf and a NYT article http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/16/st...eves.html?_r=1 both probably much more accurate and substantial than a TV show. |
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So a signal amplifier attack like that could allow a person to unlock your car, but you shouldn't be able to start it. I needa double check the manual later, but I think thats how it works. |
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Well,...........much ado about nothing on this one. Seems that an older man drove his car into his garage (under a townhouse) and forgot to hit the button to turn the car off and it ran until the gas tank ran dry and the carbon monoxide killed him.
Now his kids are pushing for manufacturers to install some type of software in the car to shut it off after xx minutes of inactivity. The NHTSA is looking into the problem, but has not made any type of ruling on it yet. |
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edit: Oh well. This won't help shut off the engine but still...
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Geeeez the things people come up with to worry about.
I could be in your old keyed car and away in about 30 seconds with a dent puller and a flat screwdriver. For any security measure ever made there is a counter measure. After reading the articles that mdm linked I don't think there is much to panic over. If anybody has the skills to build and use the equipment they speak to then they are not going to be running around scooping Twins. The vast majority of car thefts are crimes of opportunity anyway so just don't leave the fob/key in it and you will probably be safe.
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Forgetting to turn off a twin or new WRX will never be a problem because you'll either have loud crickets or a loud rumbling exhaust to remind you that the car is on. You can hear both from over 50 ft away.
I'd actually be surprised if there were cars that didn't alert the driver that the engine was still on when exiting. |
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