Sorry, stupid EL vs. UEL question...

[wparsons]

And e85... if someone breaks 210whp on 91 or 93 octane I'll be more impressed.

What is most impressive about the dyno Nelson posted is the shape of the "curve", it's stupidly linear.

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by l0aded

What are some good catted ELs? Looking around all I really see is JDL EL catted. Would the sound be significantly different (louder? tone?) vs stock headers?

Been looking forward a catted setup since I don't want to piss off my neigbhors.

@P&L Motorsports makes one. Here's a thread about it.

[Michael Blue]

Originally Posted by Nafe

Its called "boxer rumble" because that is less syllables than "Subaru rumble" or "unequal length header rumble" ;-) who else other than Subaru and Porsche use boxer engines?? That's right, no one. And how many Porsche's rumble?? Oh yeah... None ;-)
My quality EL headers do not rumble. When I worked a Subaru we had an older STI come in with EL headers. No rumble... Sounded similar to an sr20det ;-)

Add Chevrolet Corvair to the list. ;-)



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[Nafe]

Originally Posted by STV3

My Scion has a boxer engine...

Are you for real?? Your Scion has a Subaru engine..... O_o

And yes, I realise that in the past other manufactures have used boxer engines, but now it is only Subaru and Porsche, and Porsche engines don't have the rumble.

[STV3]

Originally Posted by Nafe

Are you for real?? Your Scion has a Subaru engine..... O_o

And yes, I realise that in the past other manufactures have used boxer engines, but now it is only Subaru and Porsche, and Porsche engines don't have the rumble.

Don't forget Saab

[Nafe]

Really is a moot point...
The point is that Subaru boxers are the only ones that rumble because of the uel header design.....

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by Nafe

Are you for real?? Your Scion has a Subaru engine..... O_o

And yes, I realise that in the past other manufactures have used boxer engines, but now it is only Subaru and Porsche, and Porsche engines don't have the rumble.

That's because Porsche engines have a manifold (header) per cylinder bank, and are EL (or at least MUCH closer to EL than a stock Subaru manifold).

Subaru also makes 6 cylinder boxers, and they don't rumble at all... even stock.

[Nafe]

I know all this bud, that was my whole point. The rumble is because of the exhaust manifold, not the boxer engine.
Yes I realise Subaru make 6cyl boxers. The 250hp-ish 3.0l was a great engine and sounded like a Porsche haha.
I preferred driving liberty 3.0bspec to GT liberty or WRX when I worked at Subaru for 3 years or so. They sounded great :-)