anyone with the new hawk street/race pad?

[lx93]

http://www.hawkperformance.com/perfo...ce-street-race


According to how Hawk pits it, this sounds like the dream of us track junkies. A steerable race compounds with temperature from 100 to 1200. Surprisingly though there isn't a lot of review on the internet, anyone has one to share some thoughts?


Looks like this will be good enough to go with some nice sticky Hoosiers for my supercharged BRZ!

[swarb]

"it is the ultimate high performance, street brake pad! Perfect for aggressive street car owners that also use their cars for autocross, HPDE, open track and time trail racing."

streetrace on the box.
street/race in the description.
it's a hybrid pad.
time TRAIL?
they call it streetrace to get the biggest market out of it.

[D1cker]

Looks like a replacement for the HP+ and the High Performance Street 5.0 looks like a new HPS replacement.

[CatDaddysBBQ]

Looks interesting, but expensive enough to NEED to be quite good to not go carbotech/etc.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Just as a guess, it sounds like something that will last a few laps on track, not a full 20-25 minute session.

On the other hand, I've had great luck with Carbotechs on my old Miata. Dusty and noisy on the street, but fantastic on track and easy on rotors.

[Takumi788]

Idk about the new ones but I purchased the HP+ for track days and noticed a huge difference over stock. There is even a noticeable gain in stopping power over the Hawk PC ceramic pads. Which I use on the street. There was fade once in the very last 5 minutes of the very last run at Watkins Glen. I am no brake pad expert but this is what I observed. I actually plan on switching to Ferodo DS2500 as soon as these wear out.

[Pekingduck]

I remember hp+ was noisy for street use

[Takumi788]

Originally Posted by Pekingduck

I remember hp+ was noisy for street use

You are correct sir. Quite loud. Even after I properly bedded them with brand new rotors. Doesn't bother me though.

[AZP Installs]

We've been running HP+ for a long time (15+ years) and they are a great crossover pad. Some applications are noisy, although when we ran the HP+ on our Project BRZ we didn't have much noise at all.

We switched over last August to these new Street-Race Pads and they have had a bit more longevity than the HP+. From what I've been told they are a slightly turned down DTC-30 compound.

Our thoughts are that rather than have a price increase on the HP+ and the HPS they will be phasing in the Street-Race and 5.0 pads as a way to bump pricing on the HP+ and HPS.

No issues with these pads for folks crossing over though who need a hybrid type pad.

-mike

[Pekingduck]

Originally Posted by Takumi788

You are correct sir. Quite loud. Even after I properly bedded them with brand new rotors. Doesn't bother me though.

It only really bothered me when I pulled up next to law enforcement. Also they dust and ate my rotor heavy. But the braking power was great. This was all on s2000 though.

[SeanRTR]

Originally Posted by Pekingduck

It only really bothered me when I pulled up next to law enforcement.

Ironic, as this would be a prime selling point for myself.
I may be trying the new Hawk compound myself in my FR-S for C-Street autocross, however, I think I'll opt for HPS 5.0 pad, (the pad between the HPS and HP+), as I think this may be better suited for autocross on street tires.

[Takumi788]

Why would it matter if your brakes squealed next to law enforcement?

[MrTopher]

I've run these for a couple track days at Gingerman and Grattan raceway here in MI.

They work really well on track with stock rotors and some high-temp fluid. I've also been doing a bed-in procedure before each event.

They're a lot quieter than Hawk's HP+ and they squeak just a bit on the road once your pad material wears off the rotor from a track day. They're probably hard on rotors, and they dust like crazy, but they are a great track pad that is quiet enough for daily use.

Here's a video with them at Gingerman:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWRMowb_-wg"]WR TV Subaru BRZ Shakedown at Gingerman Raceway - WR TV POV Track Test - YouTube[/ame]

Gingerman is especially hard on brakes, and these held up well.

And most recently, at Grattan:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=727yGtDycRw"]WR TV Subaru BRZ Hot Lap at Grattan Raceway - YouTube[/ame]

[Takumi788]

Quick update. My first post says I had brake fade with the HP+ pads, which is accurate, when I only had front pads and stock rotors. I recently did a track day with both front and rear HP+ pads and Stoptech slotted rotors and had zero brake fade. I highly recommend these pads for the track and for the street if you don't care about sounding like a bus when you come to a stop.