No 'Vert, No Turbo

[phobos512]

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/11/25/s...rbo-ruled-out/

Sorry, dreamers.

[Tcoat]

Almost word for word what many of us have said for a while now!

[brianhj]

Don't care, don't care

[Lonewolf]

Pretty much a foregone conclusion in this marketplace....

I will take factory 4.55 gears, better flowing heads/cams and a small bump in power for 2016/17 though

[torqdork]

I'm still speculating that a de-contented, lightened spec version like they have in Japan will make it's way over as a 2016 edition. With no other changes, dropping 200 lbs. would roughly equal a 15 hp gain. Seems doable with more aluminum throughout like doors, smaller wheels, suspension and brake components and driveshaft to start.

[extrashaky]

I like this car just as it is.

What I want is to see what they're planning for the Baby 86. There's virtually nothing out there on it other than a target price of $20K, and there's nothing else in that market segment to compete with a true entry-level RWD sports car.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by torqdork

I'm still speculating that a de-contented, lightened spec version like they have in Japan will make it's way over as a 2016 edition.

Ya, I get why they will not do big changes (as per the article) but don't really understand why they can't/won't send over the versions that already exist. Unless it is emission control issues that aren't compliant but I think Japan's are pretty close to everybody (except California who's just suck) else in the world.
The rest of the world gets 3 or 4 different trim levels whereas we get the base plus what ever you can get bolted on at the dealer at any given time.


PS I am very happy with it the way it is and not personally interested in any of the other levels but know there are many that would like them!

[torqdork]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Ya, I get why they will not do big changes (as per the article) but don't really understand why they can't/won't send over the versions that already exist. Unless it is emission control issues that aren't compliant but I think Japan's are pretty close to everybody (except California who's just suck) else in the world.
The rest of the world gets 3 or 4 different trim levels whereas we get the base plus what ever you can get bolted on at the dealer at any given time.

I'm guessing that shedding 200 lbs. would place it into another inertia weight class for EPA/CAFE certification purposes requiring an expensive re-test process that might not be justifiable for 500 units.

http://www.eccj.or.jp/top_runner/pdf...es_dec2011.pdf

[continuecrushing]

Im still holding out for the FRS Monogram 10 release series 2.0

It has even MORE light up crap, new sharkfin antenna(its taller!) different color stitching on the seats, and only costs 8k more than the standard version!


TRD Freaking JDM, yo.

[Wise]

Been saying it since 2013. If there was going to be a turbo, we'd have seen it by now.

Maybe on the ZN7 or whatever they call it.

[juliog]

Translation: don't worry guys we are not adding power to the FR-S anytime soon so please go ahead and buy the 2015 model —when we turbocharge it in 2017, we'll do a facelift and rename the car

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by juliog

—when we turbocharge it in 2017, we'll do a facelift and rename the car

[babydriver]

Originally Posted by torqdork

I'm still speculating that a de-contented, lightened spec version like they have in Japan will make it's way over as a 2016 edition. With no other changes, dropping 200 lbs. would roughly equal a 15 hp gain. Seems doable with more aluminum throughout like doors, smaller wheels, suspension and brake components and driveshaft to start.

That's an interesting idea and the aluminum pound for pound seems more resistant to denting than the sheet steel used now. All you have to do is breathe on the fender extra hard and it will dent. Case in point: About three weeks after I took delivery on my FR-S, I happened to trip and fall right next to the driver's front fender. Out of reflex I stuck my left hand out on the way down. Hurt the hell out of my knee, but when I stood up I also noticed a hand-shaped dent in the top of the fender. Now I weigh about 230 and am 6'1", but there is no way that I ought to be able to put a sizeable dent in the car's fender by falling down and striking it only with my hand.

The hood is aluminum and despite being very light seems to be rather sturdy. Certainly more than the fender is. So why doesn't Toyota/Scion/Subaru convert more body panels to aluminum? Next year the fleet AVERAGE for all car manufacturers will need to be 34 mpg in the United States. Ford is converting to aluminum panels for most of their new pickup trucks next year to get the average up. It seems like a no-brainer to me. The current steel panels are so thin that I expect to see "Budweiser" written on the inside of the fenders if removed.

P.S. Got the hand-shaped dent fixed using a paintless dent removal service; $337 dollars later it once more looked like new. I am ever so much more careful now with the fenders, doors and quarter panels!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by babydriver

That's an interesting idea and the aluminum pound for pound seems more resistant to denting than the sheet steel used now. All you have to do is breathe on the fender extra hard and it will dent. Case in point: About three weeks after I took delivery on my FR-S, I happened to trip and fall right next to the driver's front fender. Out of reflex I stuck my left hand out on the way down. Hurt the hell out of my knee, but when I stood up I also noticed a hand-shaped dent in the top of the fender. Now I weigh about 230 and am 6'1", but there is no way that I ought to be able to put a sizeable dent in the car's fender by falling down and striking it only with my hand.

The hood is aluminum and despite being very light seems to be rather sturdy. Certainly more than the fender is. So why doesn't Toyota/Scion/Subaru convert more body panels to aluminum? Next year the fleet AVERAGE for all car manufacturers will need to be 34 mpg in the United States. Ford is converting to aluminum panels for most of their new pickup trucks next year to get the average up. It seems like a no-brainer to me. The current steel panels are so thin that I expect to see "Budweiser" written on the inside of the fenders if removed.

P.S. Got the hand-shaped dent fixed using a paintless dent removal service; $337 dollars later it once more looked like new. I am ever so much more careful now with the fenders, doors and quarter panels!

Aluminum cost waaaaaay more then steel.