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Old 04-25-2012, 05:43 PM   #29
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anyone have further details on the CAI, lower springs, or 18" rims?
Lots of stuff are coming out man...just wait...will have lots of options...and coilover kits are no problem...its super easy for any coilover shop to put together a set up for you...once they have the measurements here in the states, be popping out like popcorn, and wheels, no problem, just pick your size and offset, its not like its 5x100 which is a bitch...
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I honestly don't mind the HU.

As long as it has Bluetooth and sounds OK, then I'm good. Right now I'm using a AUX jack that needs to be grounded badly. It's all crackly and I have to readjust the jack when I hit bumps. So, yeah, the stock Scion HU would definitely be an upgrade.

Of course I'd like the Bespoke unit more, but it's not worth $900 more.
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its not like its 5x100 which is a bitch...
It is 5x100...
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Lots of stuff are coming out man...just wait...will have lots of options...and coilover kits are no problem...its super easy for any coilover shop to put together a set up for you...once they have the measurements here in the states, be popping out like popcorn, and wheels, no problem, just pick your size and offset, its not like its 5x100 which is a bitch...
i'm asking about the factory accessories, not aftermarket. they're listed on page 5 of 5 in the original post.
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I understand that, though I never felt Toyota's gearboxes needed closer ratios. They have needed a better final gear so that when I'm cruising down the highway at 70+, the car doesn't need to be at 3300rpm or higher. Never mind the fact that, when on the track, I'm never going to get to the 5 gear - 4 gear maybe on larger tracks with long straightaways and sweeping corners. The torque curve on this car is rather broad and flat, so I don't expect that this car will require searching for the right rev band.
I think almost all, if not all Toyota 6-speed gear boxes us a 1:1 5th gear.

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Old 04-26-2012, 10:06 PM   #34
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Thanks for the post Ichi!

So only 48 lbs. difference between the AT & MT. So the AT tranny must be fairly light. And only a 4 lbs. difference between the FRS & BRZ is good to know too.
These are preliminary specifications as printed on page one. The numbers posted on Scion's and Subaru's websites paint a different picture:

Model\Trans MT AT
FR-S 2,785 2,806
BRZP 2,762 2,809
BRZL 2,776 2,882

So, the lightest is BRZP-MT, heaviest is BRZL-AT. If these numbers are accurate, my bets are that the differences are due to the following:

1. The BRZP-MT is lighter then the FRS-MT because the FRS's stereo unit is older/heavier, plus the external amp. Also the front fascia and headlight assembly is cheaper\heavier. They both have same amount of materials to control NVH.

2. The BRZP-AT should be lighter than the FRS-AT (add 31 lbs for AT), but the BRZ has more materials for NVH (AT users should welcome/expect this.)

3. The BRZL MT weight is wrong. No way that the features of the Limited cost only 14 lbs. Just the wiring harness for all the sensors and components of keyless entry will weigh more than 10lbs. We also got dual climate, spoiler, leather seats with heater. etc. This is a more sensible explanation than claiming that there is a 106 lbs difference between the MT and AT versions of the BRZL, even if the AT BRZL has the most NVH materials.
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That's a typo on the website I think. 2758 on official documentation, 2785 on website. Considering the BRZ has a NAV headunit and HID headlights, it makes sense there's a 4lb difference; the FR-S shouldn't weigh less considering it has a few less things (e.g. trunk liner).

EDIT: SHOULD WEIGH LESS

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Based on some articles, I am revising the weight lists as:

Model\Trans MT AT
FR-S 2,758 2,806
BRZP 2,762 2,809
BRZL 2,776 2,822

Now it makes more sense...
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4 - 30 lb difference doesnt matter to me. I'm surprised that you would even think twice about such a marginal difference. They are the exact same machine. That being said I'm glad I got to see these specs.
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No doubt, but the numbers were conflicting, and to this day, 2,882 for BRZL-AT on Subaru's website is wrong. There is quite a bit of difference between mid 2700 and almost 2900!
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Are the accessory 18" wheels going to be these?

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Doubt it, they'll probably be sourced by Toyota USA, and be different from anything shown in Japan.

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Damn thought it was going to be 5x114...
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So i take it the Front Fog lights wont be on any FR-S's till later in the model year?
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