2014 86CUP Challenge to NorCal with NCRC

[all_aboard]

Originally Posted by acx23

I'm there. And 1/31 with NCRC.

Did you already but your ticket? In trying to sell mine for that day. Know anyone who wants to buy it??

[AyJay]

Originally Posted by PMok

Not that I know of, which is why I switched back to 91 gas.
Closest ones I am aware of are in San Jose.
Sources: Flex-Fuel App and Propel App.

Thanks for the heads-up on those apps ... i didn't even know they existed.

Looks like I'll be plotting a course from Sac thru San Jose on Sat morning.

[acx23]

I did.

Post it here... https://www.facebook.com/groups/374102492735447/
Don't forget to mention your run group.

Originally Posted by all_aboard

Did you already but your ticket? In trying to sell mine for that day. Know anyone who wants to buy it??

[Krispeee]

Originally Posted by PMok

Some light reading for you guys who need a quick primer on the Laguna Seca race course:

http://www.mazdaraceway.com/sites/ma...ng_lines_0.pdf

Here's more reading material on laguna seca.
http://blog.axisofoversteer.com/2012...ack-Guide.html

Originally Posted by acx23

I'm there. And 1/31 with NCRC.

See you there! I'm all booked for 1/31!

[PMok]

seems like a never-ending debate about the two different approaches to T2.

from the article you posted:

Turn 2 is a double apex corner. It always makes me cringe when I hear about the late turn in, late apex school line.

from Laguna Seca's own website:

Turn 2 is the Andretti Hairpin. For most approaches, this is a single apex corner. Stay straight on the right entering the turn. It is a very long turn in to reach the apex with maintenance throttle after braking.

I've heard NCRC's Luc describe it like this. For textbook time trial fastest line around the track, it's a single apex. In wheel-to-wheel racing, you double apex in order to protect your position and force anyone trying to pass, to take the outside (longer) line. That would explain why that guy Gregory (he's a road racer) would say double apex, but he doesn't really explain why he prefers it over the single.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by PMok

seems like a never-ending debate about the two different approaches to T2.

Ultimately depends on how much grip you have and how late you want to brake.

BTW:

Will stop by Costco on Friday and bring up some hot dogs. If anyone wants to pitch in, <$5 each for food, I will probably have around max 2 dozen hot dogs.

Or bring whatever else you want to contribute to grill. Can also heat up soups if you bring a pot. It's a small indoor propane grill.

-alex

[sw20kosh]

My friend is selling his solo spot for this Sat at MRLS. Pm me if anyone interested.

[PMok]

For Bay Area peeps, did we pick a spot to meet up in the morning? @BRZkitty and I were talking about maybe this spot (it's near the McD's we met up at last time)

Bernal Bagels & Donuts
7064 Santa Teresa Blvd, San Jose, CA 95139
meet at 6 and roll out from there by say 6:15AM?

that should get us to Salinas in an hour and enough time to make a quick stop for gas/supplies at the Blanco Shell at approx 7:15AM.

Shell gas & Nob Hill supermarket
1300 South Main Street
Salinas, CA 93901

Originally Posted by mav1178

Will stop by Costco on Friday and bring up some hot dogs. If anyone wants to pitch in, <$5 each for food, I will probably have around max 2 dozen hot dogs.

Or bring whatever else you want to contribute to grill. Can also heat up soups if you bring a pot. It's a small indoor propane grill.

-alex

I'm in for food as long as my $5 gets me more than one hot dog LOL.

[Pwolf]

Looking forward to tomorrow and all the pictures I get to take #photognerd

[BRZkitty]

Originally Posted by PMok

For Bay Area peeps, did we pick a spot to meet up in the morning? @BRZkitty and I were talking about maybe this spot (it's near the McD's we met up at last time)

Bernal Bagels & Donuts
7064 Santa Teresa Blvd, San Jose, CA 95139
meet at 6 and roll out from there by say 6:15AM?

that should get us to Salinas in an hour and enough time to make a quick stop for gas/supplies at the Blanco Shell at approx 7:15AM.

Shell gas & Nob Hill supermarket
1300 South Main Street
Salinas, CA 93901



I'm in for food as long as my $5 gets me more than one hot dog LOL.

im down!

[WoOosOn]

Originally Posted by BRZkitty

im down!

Me ✌️!

[EAGLE5]

I've heard the exact same discussion of turn 2 at Thunderhill. When you're behind somebody and double apex while they take the single apex, you can push them wide so they slow down and you pass. There is also time to distance and speed carried out of the corner. If you exit with a little less speed because you double-apexed, you don't exactly have a lot of straight at either track before the next corner. At Thunderhill, I've used turn 2 to catch up to people with clearly faster cars.

Try it both ways!

Originally Posted by PMok

seems like a never-ending debate about the two different approaches to T2.
I've heard NCRC's Luc describe it like this. For textbook time trial fastest line around the track, it's a single apex. In wheel-to-wheel racing, you double apex in order to protect your position and force anyone trying to pass, to take the outside (longer) line. That would explain why that guy Gregory (he's a road racer) would say double apex, but he doesn't really explain why he prefers it over the single.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

[darkonion]

I am most likely out for tomorrow. For those of you who are friends with me on Facebook, you guys probably saw that I am fostering a stray puppy. I doubt that I'll be able to find someone that would be able to watch her the whole day.

[ddeflyer]

And that is exactly what I have heard, slightly faster vs. protected line. In capable hands, there shouldn't be very much difference between the two, but, given no traffic I would expect the single apex to be a tiny bit faster.