2013 Honda Civic Si Sedan vs 2013 Subaru BRZ

[Kelbyat07]

I mean as long as your happy with your purchase then you should be happy. It's not like people are paying for your car anyways. Even though in my opinion the BRZ/FRS are a little sportier than the civic, both are nice cars.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by husker741

I'm sorry, but civics will always be wannabes in my book. Especially Si's.

Originally Posted by dospod

:/ this is (in my eyes) a very dumb decision. Aftermarket support for the k24 in that car isn't all that great , the motor itself feels very "meh" , and it will always be fwd. If you just had to have a civic with v-tec the better buy would have been an 8th gen with a k20 (k20-24 hybrids have better aftermarket support than the k24 in the 9th gen)..... very sad to see this

Originally Posted by nonicname

The BRZ is for the people who enjoy the track, people who know how to drive or want to learn. The civic couldn't hold a candle at the track. you were never the target market so I'm glad you are out.

Originally Posted by switchlanez

If by "shit talk" you mean valid discussion generated from the countless comparos from legitimate publications and the OEM, than yeah, we talk a lotta shit. And if you don't like it, get out of here. Without the automotive world's sentiment, a lot of this shit discussion otherwise wouldn't exist. Sorry if the world outside ft86club likes to troll other cars.


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I still question this guy's intent. Many of his posts consistently try to convince me to not like my car as much as I really, really do. A car purpose-built for driving fun and enthusiasm. In essence, his posts dissuade enthusiasts from being enthusiasts. Most of us don't care for performance numbers yet he feels a need to focus on it as if it were important to us... to remind us of something obvious which we are already very well aware of. Yes, we are fans of what appears to be a mediocre car in his world yet isn't mediocre to the world in general.

If he posts with similar intents on any of his Miata forums (since they are similar cars in essence), then I'll accept more of his posts as genuine rather than hate-driven.
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-Moto-P

when i say shit talk, i mean posts like the ones above. not really valid discussions or even discussions at all.

theres a little bit of irony here because i clearly remember you using the factory backed griffon trd gt86 race car going around tsukuba faster than an italia as proof that the frs is better than the 458.

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by fatoni

when i say shit talk, i mean posts like the ones above. not really valid discussions or even discussions at all.

theres a little bit of irony here because i clearly remember you using the factory backed griffon trd gt86 race car going around tsukuba faster than an italia as proof that the frs is better than the 458.

What about it? That thread compared it to supercars out of playful gloat. Then people jumped in misinterpreting it as dead seriousness and derailed the thread to spite our good spirits. The OEM ran an 86 on a stock engine with simple bolt-ons, aero, and weight reduction around a world-known circuit faster than the 458. Track time was not the main focus but merely a reference point; the point was to demonstrate how the 86 is a balanced platform for tuning. I, and many others, don't like and buy this car because it goes faster or slower than a 458 or any other car around a track. But we are fanatics about its balanced package. If it can go faster on a stock engine than a 458, can't our enthusiasm be allowed to be a little bit justified?

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

What about it? That thread compared it to supercars out of playful gloat. Then people misinterpreted it as dead seriousness and derailed the thread to spite our good spirits. The OEM ran an 86 on a stock engine sith simple bolt-ons, aero, and weight reduction around a world known circuit faster than the 458. Track time was not the main focus but merely a reference point. The point of the exercise was to demonstrate how the 86 is a balanced platform for tuning. I, and many others, don't like and buy this car because it goes faster or slower than a 458 or any other car around a track. But we are fanatics about its balanced package. If it can go faster on a stock engine than a 458, can't our enthusiasm be allowed to be a little bit justified?
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im not going to get into that argument again. this thread is about a guy who traded in his brz and is happy. in his review and his reasoning its clear that the civic meets his needs and expectations better the brz and some people are responding to that in a pretty negative fashion.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by fatoni

im not going to get into that argument again. this thread is about a guy who traded in his brz and is happy. in his review and his reasoning its clear that the civic meets his needs and expectations better the brz and some people are responding to that in a pretty negative fashion.

Good thing you were here to put a stop to that...lol

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Good thing you were here to put a stop to that...lol

if you dont like what i have to say, its probably in your best interest to stop antagonizing me.

[Brzetto]

Did somebody just call the BRZ mediocre?

[Coheed]

I stomped some SIs at a recent track event in my bone-stock BRZ. Must be the madd driving skills yo.

[Neo Zuko]

LOL @ how this thread turned out

[Gixxersixxerman]

Originally Posted by Razz

Funny!!!!!!

Your avatar is a HONDA Goldwing!

Originally Posted by Bristecom

Yeah, I was confused by that as well.

I wouldn't piss on a Honda if it was on fire.. I wouldn't own one if it was given to me, it would sit there until sold.. It's a personal thing, that I dislike.. A lot of it is the douche bag Honda drivers, a lot of it is the douche bag Honda Racing Company, or HRC.. Yeah I have a gold wing doing a wheelie, something that looks bazaar and takes quite a skilled rider to do it..

What I ride


And how I ride it

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by fatoni

if you dont like what i have to say, its probably in your best interest to stop antagonizing me.

Or else what?

You sure enjoy spouting your opinion, but can't take others views very well. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

I'm not going anywhere, but the door is that way ----->

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Or else what?

You sure enjoy spouting your opinion, but can't take others views very well. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

I'm not going anywhere, but the door is that way ----->

you dont understand. its not "or else" anything. if you dont want to listen to me rant and im already done with the discussion, it is in your best interest to just to leave it alone. responding to my posts with comments that add nothing to the original discussion isnt going to help your cause and, imo, is pretty textbook trolling. it doesnt really bother me, just pointing it out.

theres no heat, no kitchen and no doors. there is no tension or bitterness on my side. im just saying that if you dont want me to talk, talking to me is not going to help. its simple really.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by fatoni

you dont understand. its not "or else" anything. if you dont want to listen to me rant and im already done with the discussion, it is in your best interest to just to leave it alone. responding to my posts with comments that add nothing to the original discussion isnt going to help your cause and, imo, is pretty textbook trolling. it doesnt really bother me, just pointing it out.

theres no heat, no kitchen and no doors. there is no tension or bitterness on my side. im just saying that if you dont want me to talk, talking to me is not going to help. its simple really.

Being called a troll, by a troll...the irony is hilarious

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Being called a troll, by a troll...the irony is hilarious

I wonder if his license plate says 1 Trollr