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Old 05-06-2016, 07:32 PM   #1
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An Awesome Ariel Atom Review!

@Dezoris made a pretty rad review of the new Ariel Atom 3S, in addition to touring the TMI Autotech facility.

Props on upping the production quality too dude!

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Old 05-06-2016, 07:52 PM   #2
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I used to work in Temecula across street from atom dealer. Damn those things are awesome
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Been my dream car since they first started in England.

I cringed hard at some of the "engineer's" statements. Trial and error is not engineering. Design work is not engineering. Was that guy actually an engineer, or a CAD jockey overselling himself?
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Old 05-07-2016, 02:25 AM   #4
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Been my dream car since they first started in England.

I cringed hard at some of the "engineer's" statements. Trial and error is not engineering. Design work is not engineering. Was that guy actually an engineer, or a CAD jockey overselling himself?
Contrary to popular belief trial and error and design is heavily involved in engineering, it's led to some of the greatest tech advancements of our time.
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@Dezoris made a pretty rad review of the new Ariel Atom 3S, in addition to touring the TMI Autotech facility.

Props on upping the production quality too dude!

Review | Ariel Atom 3S | Fountain of Youth
@Dezoris once again, his videos have seriously bumped up in quality over the past 3 years
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Cool car, but the savagegeese guy is just such a downer about anything and everything he covers. :\ Chirp up buddy!!! Smile some!
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Been my dream car since they first started in England.

I cringed hard at some of the "engineer's" statements. Trial and error is not engineering. Design work is not engineering. Was that guy actually an engineer, or a CAD jockey overselling himself?
at what point does it count though? I know some of my other car friends are going through 95% of the same courses I have to and their trying to end up as basically a CAD jockey. Not technically an engineering degree, but a technology degree.

Then theres your severely hardcore, above ME degrees, like plastics and composites engineers.
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Contrary to popular belief trial and error and design is heavily involved in engineering, it's led to some of the greatest tech advancements of our time.
Trial and error is not engineering. It may be involved in invention but it is not engineering. That trial and error are associated with engineering, unfortunately, is the incorrect popular belief.
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at what point does it count though? I know some of my other car friends are going through 95% of the same courses I have to and their trying to end up as basically a CAD jockey. Not technically an engineering degree, but a technology degree.

Then theres your severely hardcore, above ME degrees, like plastics and composites engineers.
Engineering is the discipline of using established physical and mathematical law to minimize risk/cost incurred in arriving at a solution. I've done my share of design work. I'm no stranger to "winging it" and am damn good at it. Still, it's not engineering. /threadjack

It's an amazing car. I want one. @Dezoris, like others have said, you've really stepped up your game. Kudos and thanks!
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I wish i had an atom, Id wear a rain coat and daily drive that shit.
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Engineering is the discipline of using established physical and mathematical law to minimize risk/cost incurred in arriving at a solution. I've done my share of design work. I'm no stranger to "winging it" and am damn good at it. Still, it's not engineering. /threadjack
To belabour the threadjack, trial and error is always at the root of engineering development. We engineers just spend a lot of effort minimizing the risk (& consequence) of error after the trial. The irony, to me, is that we do that through trial and error but on a smaller scale or in a different way. For example, we often create a computer model that is "tried" analytically, but we're still looking for the same types of error. The big difference is that pure trial and error just gives you a result, the failure, to analyze after the fact and feed back into the design. The engineering method, with modelling or testing loops in between, gives you more insight into the physics that lead up to the failure. Even if the model doesn't perfectly predict the failure, you usually have a much better idea of why the failure occurred and how to prevent it. OK, rant over.

The Atom is pretty special. Just too much $$ for me. I still giggle when I think of Clarkson's jowls.
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Trial and error works for me, but I am not an engineer, I'm a scientist.
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