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01-20-2016, 08:29 PM | #29 |
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It's 2016 and people are still gendering cars?
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if you're going to modd it, buying new one is pointless.
gonna stay with stock? then buy it new. if i am OP, i would just buy after lease is up to save money. |
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When I stated CITE sources I meant anything from the Manufacture or a Tune magazine review anything substantiating the claims of better suspension in the later models. So far nothing has been proven. Changing who makes parts mid cycle on a car in most cases is related to internal cost cutting measures than anything else. Enjoy your cars!
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When I stated CITE your sources I meant anything from the Manufacture or a Tuner magazine, an online review, an improved track time, anything substantiating the claims of better suspension in the later models. So far nothing has been proven. Changing who makes parts mid cycle on a car in most cases is related to internal cost cutting measures more than anything else. Hearing a guy on the internet that purchase x from user Y and put it on his BR Z doesn't equate to better suspension. Most likely he is experiencing a condition of trying to defend his purchase, which we all do. It is how we as humans behave... Not being a ****... I just want concrete evidence of statements like "The 2015/2016 have suspension improvements leading to better handling", really anything that is tangible evidence would be appreciated. Enjoy your cars!
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He said he went from a '15 FR-S to a '16 BRZ. From '15 onward, both vehicles have EXACTLY the same suspension tuning, so this is untrue.
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01-21-2016, 03:21 PM | #36 |
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BRZ vs FRS suspension lol
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01-21-2016, 03:51 PM | #37 | |
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http://www.autoblog.com/2014/05/29/2...blue-official/ http://media.subaru.com/pressrelease...al-edition-brz As a side note, I didn't say they were better than aftermarket options. I just said that they are in fact different. They've been marketed as improved; I've said that they were revised and some found them to be more comfortable. Obviously, if you want to just improve your dampers, you can easily just pick up a set of Bilsteins and call it a day. Last edited by jawn; 01-21-2016 at 04:26 PM. |
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Leases almost always cost more than purchasing a car simply because you pay for a longer period of time when you combine the number of lease payments with the number of payments to pay off the residual, which means more interest to the bank. If you don't keep the car, the lease has the obvious benefit of not being committed for as long a period of time. 42 months is a longer lease these days with 24 and 36 month leases being more common. But most people buy cars on 60-72 month payment plans, so 42 months is still about 2 years less of a commitment. The other advantage of a lease is being able to upgrade at the end of a lease to a model with the latest features. Typically, leases have been a way of being able to obtain a car when you don't have the liquid cash for a down payment or your credit isn't as good - leases usually have higher interest rates than purchases. Here is a great comparison of leasing vs buying: http://www.cars101.com/lease.html Whatever the monthly payment amount is, 42 payments is a lot of $ and he still owes $16K. I ran an appraisal on Edmunds.com for zip code 07470 on a 2013 DGM Limited MT with 23K miles in "average" condition (don't know what options you have and also don't know if the damage would drop it to "rough" condition or if it's extremely minor, maybe the car would be considered "clean"). Edmunds has the car valued at $15,944 for a private party sale; take $1000 off for a trade-in and add $1000 for dealer retail. Personally, if I could afford it, I would go with the '16. The car is much more "polished" now with better features even though mechanically, it's the same. |
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off topic, but what hood is that on your lava?
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I am not going to take sides on your argu........errrr discussion. However, I would like to point out that every new model year of virtually every vehicle made is "marketed" as "improved" even if that means they only changed one screw from a phillips head to a hex head between model years.
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