Brz vs Brz vs Frs - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Myuri · 11-13-2018, 05:58 PM

Some cars have very different characteristics depending on the year it was made is the brz like that like is there any differences between the years? I have looked around a little bit and havent found anything so theres nothing crazy but maybe some forum peeps would know ty.

Spuds · 11-13-2018, 06:10 PM

Later years of both BRZ and FRS/86 have added more refinement in interior and some suspension updates. I believe the FRS's are a bit more tail-happy than both BRZ and GT86, which are supposedly very similar (hopefully someone who shopped around can give you a better answer). More options were added as years go on, but that's easy to find out. Also, the new track stability setting is less restrictive than earlier sport mode, but I just turn mine full-off most of the time.

I haven't driven anything other than my '13 so everything above is just a summary from what I've read and heard. I did ride in a '14 BRZ series.blue, and it felt the same as mine ride-wise with a nicer interior.

Mr.ac · 11-13-2018, 06:38 PM

Newer ones ('17+) have slightly better suspension. And 2 more hp?
Other than interior differences is pretty much the same.

DarkPira7e · 11-13-2018, 06:40 PM

The choice of tires you outfit the car with will have a much larger impact than MY difference between the models. A 2015 BRZ I've driven feels softer than my 2013 FRS. This could be since my car has 25,000 less miles, it could be since I had 200TW tires and I'm not sure what he had on the car. I wouldn't let your selection in the car or comparison be complicated by trivial details like spring rates, that you'll probably swap out for some thing anyway.

If you're not planning on swapping for top tier stock class competitive reasons, I suppose there's merit in asking - otherwise, rumor has it the Scion is a fraction stiffer.

EDIT: I've also driven a 2017 PP BRZ. This was a very smooth car compared to mine. In all aspects, it had fundamentally different handling because of the performance pack. Other than this, I think the difference will be negligible. Any change you want can be accomplished with an aftermarket spring, a stiffer tire, among other aftermarket enhancements.

Myuri · 11-13-2018, 08:11 PM

Aight yeah i about figured as much as when i went a little digging and couldnt really find much on it aside from the refreshs 5 hp gain that there was nothing crazy different but if anyone would know it would be here so thanks for your info guys

carsebuco · 11-13-2018, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Myuri

Aight yeah i about figured as much as when i went a little digging and couldnt really find much on it aside from the refreshs 5 hp gain that there was nothing crazy different but if anyone would know it would be here so thanks for your info guys

2017+ new bumper and everything else that's already been said

Stick with 2013 and save 15k or buy 2017+ for the differences.

Myuri · 11-14-2018, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by carsebuco

2017+ new bumper and everything else that's already been said

Stick with 2013 and save 15k or buy 2017+ for the differences.

Someone tried telling my girlfriend today that the difference between a brz and a 86 was that the 86 had a different engine and it was twin turbo'd today which made me laugh and cry at the same time like i wish buddy i wish

Spuds · 11-14-2018, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Myuri

Someone tried telling my girlfriend today that the difference between a brz and a 86 was that the 86 had a different engine and it was twin turbo'd today which made me laugh and cry at the same time like i wish buddy i wish

Someone got a bit confused between an 86 and a Supra

humfrz · 11-14-2018, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Myuri

Someone tried telling my girlfriend today that the difference between a brz and a 86 was that the 86 had a different engine and it was twin turbo'd today which made me laugh and cry at the same time like i wish buddy i wish

I hope that's ALL he tried to tell YOUR girlfriend -

humfrz

why? · 11-14-2018, 07:54 PM

2013 FRS are the least stable. Besides that there really isn't that much of a difference until the 2017+.

humfrz · 11-14-2018, 08:13 PM

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2013 FRS are the least stable. Besides that there really isn't that much of a difference until the 2017+.

How do you figure that? -

humfrz

why? · 11-16-2018, 08:22 AM

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How do you figure that? -

humfrz

Because they are the most drift happy, plus if you listen to a lot of the owners, they are the ones that have actually gained stability at highway speeds by slapping on massive wings. I'm sure the difference is less than 10%, but sometimes that is all that is needed to make a difference.

SuperTom · 11-16-2018, 11:07 AM

The gearing change on the 17+ makes a big difference in the cars acceleration and feel more so than the 5hp bump.

Dr.Science · 12-10-2018, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperTom

The gearing change on the 17+ makes a big difference in the cars acceleration and feel more so than the 5hp bump.

I completely agree. I just test drove an 18 and it felt quicker in city driving.

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Spuds The Dictater Join Date: Apr 2017 Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS Location: MD, USA Posts: 9,428 Thanks: 26,111 Thanked 12,430 Times in 6,146 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Later years of both BRZ and FRS/86 have added more refinement in interior and some suspension updates. I believe the FRS's are a bit more tail-happy than both BRZ and GT86, which are supposedly very similar (hopefully someone who shopped around can give you a better answer). More options were added as years go on, but that's easy to find out. Also, the new track stability setting is less restrictive than earlier sport mode, but I just turn mine full-off most of the time. I haven't driven anything other than my '13 so everything above is just a summary from what I've read and heard. I did ride in a '14 BRZ series.blue, and it felt the same as mine ride-wise with a nicer interior.

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DarkPira7e Rust bucket enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: 2013 Turbo Firestorm FRS Location: Vermont Posts: 3,932 Thanks: 3,199 Thanked 4,095 Times in 2,045 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The choice of tires you outfit the car with will have a much larger impact than MY difference between the models. A 2015 BRZ I've driven feels softer than my 2013 FRS. This could be since my car has 25,000 less miles, it could be since I had 200TW tires and I'm not sure what he had on the car. I wouldn't let your selection in the car or comparison be complicated by trivial details like spring rates, that you'll probably swap out for some thing anyway. If you're not planning on swapping for top tier stock class competitive reasons, I suppose there's merit in asking - otherwise, rumor has it the Scion is a fraction stiffer. EDIT: I've also driven a 2017 PP BRZ. This was a very smooth car compared to mine. In all aspects, it had fundamentally different handling because of the performance pack. Other than this, I think the difference will be negligible. Any change you want can be accomplished with an aftermarket spring, a stiffer tire, among other aftermarket enhancements.

11-13-2018, 08:11 PM	#5
Myuri Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Drives: 2016 BRZ Location: Arizona Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Aight yeah i about figured as much as when i went a little digging and couldnt really find much on it aside from the refreshs 5 hp gain that there was nothing crazy different but if anyone would know it would be here so thanks for your info guys

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